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Hines v. Pardue

U.S. Courts of Appeals

Decided September 26, 2024

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         United States Court of Appeals
              for the Fifth Circuit                                 United States Court of Appeals
                                                                             Fifth Circuit

                              ____________                                 FILED
                                                                   September 26, 2024
                               No. 23-40483                           Lyle W. Cayce
                              ____________                                 Clerk

Ronald S. Hines, Doctor of Veterinary Medicine,

                                                           Plaintiff—Appellant,

                                     versus

Keith Pardue, in his official capacity as Vice President of the Texas State
Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners; Sandra “Lynn” Criner,
Doctor of Veterinary Medicine, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Texas
State Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners; Michael White, Doctor of
Veterinary Medicine, in his official capacity as a Member of the Texas State
Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners; Samantha Mixon, Doctor of
Veterinary Medicine, in her official capacity as a Member of the Texas State
Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners; Randall Skaggs, Doctor of
Veterinary Medicine, in his official capacity as a Member of the Texas State
Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners; Raquel Oliver, in her official
capacity as a Member of the Texas State Board of Veterinary Medical
Examiners; Sue Allen, Licensed Veterinary Technician, in her official
capacity as a Member of the Texas State Board of Veterinary Medical
Examiners; Victoria Whitehead, in her official capacity as a Member of
the Texas State Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners; Steven Golla,
Doctor of Veterinary Medicine, in his official capacity as President of the Texas
State Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners,

                                         Defendants—Appellees.
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                Appeal from the United States District Court
                    for the Southern District of Texas
                          USDC No. 1:18-CV-155
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Before Willett, Wilson, and Ramirez, Circuit Judges.
Don R. Willett, Circuit Judge:
        Dr. Ronald S. Hines is a retired, physically disabled, Texas-licensed
veterinarian who enjoys spending his golden years giving online pet-care
advice to animal lovers around the world—often for free. Dr. Hines does not
physically examine animals, perform surgeries, apply casts, splints, or
bandages, administer vaccinations, or prescribe prescription medication. He
merely sends emails. This would be no problem if the patients were people
instead of pets. For humans, Texas law allows telemedicine without first
requiring a face-to-face examination to establish a physician-patient
relationship. Not so with animals, which require an in-person visit. Exam-free telehealth, turns out, is fine for your Uncle Bernard, but not for your
Saint Bernard.
        No one ever complained about Dr. Hines’s online pet-care advice or
alleged that it harmed a single animal. However, because Dr. Hines does not
physically examine animals before sharing his expertise, the State of Texas
considered some of his emails criminal offenses, going so far as penalizing
him with a year of probation, fining him $500, and forcing him to retake the
jurisprudence section of the veterinary licensing exam. In 2013, Dr. Hines
challenged the physical-examination requirement on First Amendment
grounds. Over the last decade, his case has been before our court twice—and
now, a third time. 1 After we remanded this case nearly four years ago, the
district court granted summary judgment for the State. 2 Dr. Hines appealed.

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        1
          Hines v. Alldredge (Hines I), 
783 F.3d 197
 (5th Cir. 2015); Hines v. Quillivan (Hines
II), 
982 F.3d 266
 (5th Cir. 2020).
        2
        In 2023, the enforcement authority for the laws at issue changed to the Texas
Department of Licensing and Regulation. Act of June 18, 2023, 88th Leg., R.S., ch. 1103,




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        Today, we uphold Dr. Hines’s First Amendment rights. We
specifically conclude that the State of Texas is directly regulating Dr. Hines’s
speech and that this regulation fails to survive even intermediate scrutiny.
We accordingly REVERSE and REMAND with instructions to enter
judgment for Dr. Hines.
                                           I
                                          A
       Dr. Hines is a veterinarian licensed by the State of Texas. He also
holds a Ph.D. in microbiology. After obtaining his veterinary license in 1966,
Dr. Hines worked in various roles across the country and around the world
researching and working with animals. He worked as a veterinarian for almost
four decades, including time spent on animal research.
       In 1977, Dr. Hines suffered a fall that injured his spine, rendering him
totally disabled according to the Department of Veterans Affairs. In 2002,
Dr. Hines retired from his full-time practice of veterinary medicine because
the rigors of daily practice had become too cumbersome. Around that time,
he launched a website to share articles about veterinary care. Readers began
emailing Dr. Hines, seeking advice about their pets or animals they found.
Dr. Hines responded to readers’ questions from his home in Brownsville,
Texas. About half of these emails came from readers outside the United
States and most came from outside Texas. At some point, Dr. Hines started
charging a flat fee to cover expenses and to screen trivial inquiries, but he
helped correspondents for free if they could not pay and refunded fees when

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§ 2 (codified at Tex. Occ. Code § 801.022(a)). The commissioners of the Texas
Department of Licensing and Regulation are therefore “automatically substituted” for the
members of the Texas State Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners. Fed. R. App. P.
43(c)(2).




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he could not help. Dr. Hines requested that readers submit an electronic form
with information about their animal and submit “photographs and lab work”
for his review. In answering questions, he “always requested complete
medical records from the owner’s local veterinarian,” and if none existed, he
referred owners to a local veterinarian and urged them to have their pet
physically examined.
        In 2012, the Texas State Board of Veterinary Medical Examiners
informed Dr. Hines that his wholly electronic veterinary practice violated
Texas law. The law at issue requires veterinarians to establish a veterinarianclient-patient relationship (VCPR) before engaging in the practice of
veterinary medicine. 3 Under the statute, a VCPR exists if, as relevant here,
“the veterinarian . . . possesses sufficient knowledge of the animal to initiate
at least a general or preliminary diagnosis of the animal’s medical
condition.” 4 A veterinarian can establish the sufficient-knowledge
requirement in two ways: “(1) examining the animal; or (2) making medically
appropriate and timely visits to the premises on which the animal is kept.” 5
The VCPR “may not be established solely by telephone or electronic
means.” 6
        The State concluded that because Dr. Hines’s advice constituted the
practice of veterinary medicine, and because Dr. Hines never physically

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        3
          The statute defines “practice of veterinary medicine” as “the diagnosis,
treatment, correction, change, manipulation, relief, or prevention of animal disease,
deformity, defect, injury, or other physical condition, including the prescription or
administration of a drug, biologic, anesthetic, apparatus, or other therapeutic or diagnostic
substance or technique.” Tex. Occ. Code § 801.002(5)(A).
        4
            Id. § 801.351(a)(2).
        5
            Id. § 801.351(b).
        6
            Id. § 801.351(c).




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examined the animals that were the subject of his advice—facts that Dr.
Hines concedes—he had not established a VCPR and thus violated the law.
In response, Dr. Hines put a disclaimer on his website, informing readers that
he could not “engage[] in the ‘practice’ of veterinary medicine as defined by
Texas law,” meaning that he could not offer “specific diagnosis [or]
treatment,” among other things.
       But this did not satisfy the State. So, in 2013, Dr. Hines and the State
entered into an agreed order, “formally reprimanding [Dr. Hines], imposing
a year of probation, fining him $500, and forcing him to retake the
jurisprudence section of the veterinary licensing exam.”
       About two weeks later, Dr. Hines sued the State, alleging that the
physical-examination requirement violated his First Amendment rights.
                                            B
       Over the last decade, this lawsuit has braved an extensive procedural
journey. We recount here the relevant portions related to Dr. Hines’s First
Amendment claim.
       The State moved to dismiss the First Amendment claim under
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(b)(6), arguing that the physical-examination requirement did not implicate the First Amendment. The
district court denied the motion and granted the State’s unopposed motion
to certify the question to our court for interlocutory appeal.
       We reversed. 7 The panel concluded that the physical-examination
requirement did not “regulate the content of any speech, require
veterinarians to deliver any particular message, or restrict what can be said


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       7
           Hines I, 
783 F.3d at 203
.




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once a [VCPR] is established.” 8 So it decided that the physical-examination
requirement fell “squarely within [the State’s] long-established authority”
to regulate professional conduct and thus did not offend the First
Amendment. 9 On remand, the district court entered final judgment for the
State.
         Three years later, after the Supreme Court held in National Institute
of Family & Life Advocates v. Becerra (NIFLA) 10 that professional speech—
like all other speech—is subject to traditional First Amendment scrutiny, Dr.
Hines renewed his suit against the State. The district court again dismissed
Dr. Hines’s claim, concluding that NIFLA did not abrogate Hines I, which
“require[d] dismissal.” 11
         But while Dr. Hines’s appeal was pending before our court, we issued
an opinion in Vizaline, L.L.C. v. Tracy, which held that Hines I’s “reasoning
does not survive NIFLA.” 12 And we clarified that the “relevant question”
was whether “[the State]’s licensing requirements regulate only speech,
restrict speech only incidentally to their regulation of non-expressive
professional conduct, or regulate only non-expressive conduct.” 13 So
“[b]ound by Vizaline” and “no longer bound by Hines I,” we concluded that
Dr. Hines’s First Amendment claim “may be entitled to greater judicial



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         8
              
Id. at 201
.
         9
        Id.; see also 
id.
 at 202 n.20 (describing the physical-examination requirement as a
“content-neutral conduct regulation”).
         10
              
585 U.S. 755
, 766–68 (2018).
         11
              Hines v. Quillivan, 
395 F. Supp. 3d 857
, 864 (S.D. Tex. 2019).
         12
              
949 F.3d 927
, 928 n.1 (5th Cir. 2020).
         13
              Hines II, 
982 F.3d at 272
 (citing Vizaline, 
949 F.3d at 931
).




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scrutiny than Hines I allowed.” 14 We reversed and remanded for the district
court to make the initial evaluation of whether Dr. Hines’s “conduct or
speech [wa]s being regulated.” 15
        On remand, the parties cross-moved for summary judgment. 16 The
district court granted the State’s motion and denied Dr. Hines’s. It made
three key determinations that are before us on appeal: The law (1) regulates
Dr. Hines’s speech, rather than his conduct; (2) does so in a content-neutral
way, warranting intermediate scrutiny; and (3) survives intermediate
scrutiny because it was “narrowly tailored to the [State’s] substantial
interests, which [were] unrelated to the suppression of speech.” 17
                                              II
        We review summary judgment de novo. 18 Summary judgment is
warranted if “no genuine dispute as to any material fact” exists and “the
movant is entitled to judgment as a matter of law.” 19 When parties file crossmotions for summary judgment, we review “each party’s motion




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        14
             
Id.
        15
             
Id.
 (citation omitted).
        16
            At the Rule 12(b)(6) stage, the district court concluded that the law was a
content-based restriction on Dr. Hines’s speech, requiring discovery to develop the record
for strict-scrutiny analysis. See Hines v. Quillivan, No. 1:18-CV-155, 
2021 WL 6618658
, at
*10 (S.D. Tex. July 29, 2021), report and recommendation adopted, 
2021 WL 5833886
 (S.D.
Tex. Dec. 9, 2021).
        17
             Hines v. Pardue, 
688 F. Supp. 3d 522
, 546–57 (S.D. Tex. 2023).
        18
          Catalyst Strategic Advisors, L.L.C. v. Three Diamond Cap. SBC, L.L.C., 
93 F.4th 870, 874
 (5th Cir. 2024).
        19
             Fed. R. Civ. P. 56(a).




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independently, viewing the evidence and inferences in the light most
favorable to the nonmoving party.” 20
                                              III
        At the threshold, we face two thorny First Amendment questions.
First, does the State’s physical-examination requirement regulate Dr.
Hines’s speech directly, as Dr. Hines argues, or only incidentally to the law’s
general regulation of his conduct, as the State counters? Second, if it
regulates his speech, does it do so in a content-based way, as Dr. Hines
contends? The answers to these questions dictate, in turn, the applicable
level of scrutiny. 21 Our precedents mandate that we apply intermediate
scrutiny only if the law regulates his speech in a content-neutral way. 22 But if




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        20
             Ford Motor Co. v. Tex. Dep’t of Transp., 
264 F.3d 493, 498
 (5th Cir. 2001).
        21
         See Tex. Ent. Ass’n v. Hegar, 
10 F.4th 495
, 509 (5th Cir. 2021) (noting that the
content-neutrality “determination dictates the level of scrutiny the challenged restriction
must meet in order to pass muster”).
        22
           See NIFLA, 
585 U.S. at 768
 (“States may regulate professional conduct, even
though that conduct incidentally involves speech.”); Vizaline, 
949 F.3d at 933
 (citing
Sorrell v. IMS Health, Inc., 
564 U.S. 552, 567
 (2011) (explaining that “the First
Amendment does not prevent restrictions directed at commerce or conduct from imposing
incidental burdens on speech”)); Tex. Ent. Ass’n, 10 F.4th at 509 (“[C]ontent neutral
restrictions are generally subject only to intermediate scrutiny.”). We acknowledge that
the Fourth Circuit, on the other hand, has held that intermediate scrutiny applies even
when regulations only incidentally impact speech. See Cap. Associated Indus., Inc. v. Stein,
922 F.3d 198, 208
 (4th Cir. 2019) (“We think the correct reading of Supreme Court
precedent, however, is that intermediate scrutiny should apply to regulations of conduct
that incidentally impact speech.”). But because our precedent—and that of the Supreme
Court—suggests otherwise, we apply intermediate scrutiny only if the law regulates speech
directly (and in a content-neutral way), not merely incidentally.




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the law is a content-based regulation of Dr. Hines’s speech, we apply strict
scrutiny. 23
                                           IV
        First things first, we must determine what the physical-examination
requirement primarily regulates. The State does not dispute that Dr. Hines’s
speech is implicated. It contends that the physical-examination requirement
restricts Dr. Hines’s speech incidentally to the general regulation of conduct.
So, we consider whether the requirement regulates Dr. Hines’s speech
directly or only incidentally to the regulation of his conduct. On the one hand,
all Dr. Hines does is send emails—pure speech. But on the other, the law
regulates his speech as part of the practice of veterinary medicine. 24
                                            A
        The First Amendment prohibits laws “abridging the freedom of
speech.” 25 In the Supreme Court’s jurisprudence since the adoption of that
Amendment in 1791, however, the Court has held that the First Amendment
does not protect all forms of speech and does protect some expressive
conduct. 26 Still, neither the Supreme Court—nor our court—has suggested
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        23
            See, e.g., Tex. Ent. Ass’n, 10 F.4th at 509 (“Content based restrictions on
protected First Amendment expression are presumptively unconstitutional and subject to
strict scrutiny.”).
        24
          We are mindful that under “[Supreme Court] precedents, [s]tates may regulate
professional conduct, even though that conduct incidentally involves speech.” NIFLA,
585 U.S. at 768
.
        25
           U.S. Const. amend. I. The First Amendment applies to the states via
incorporation into the Fourteenth Amendment. See Stromberg v. California, 
283 U.S. 359, 368
 (1931).
        26
           See, e.g., Counterman v. Colorado, 
600 U.S. 66
, 73–74 (2023) (finding no
protection for true threats); Brandenburg v. Ohio, 
395 U.S. 444
, 447–49 (1969) (per curiam)
(finding no protection for incitement); Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 
315 U.S. 568
, 573




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heightened protection for speech regulated only incidentally to a generally
applicable regulation of conduct. 27
        As noted above, circuit courts have, until recently, applied the socalled professional-speech doctrine to licensing regulations like this one.
These courts, including our own, 28 treated laws regulating professionals’
speech as a separate category from non-professional speech, entitling them
to less protection and exempting them from traditional First Amendment
scrutiny. 29 The Supreme Court, however, rejected this doctrine in
NIFLA, 30 and instructed courts to apply the “traditional conduct-versusspeech dichotomy.” 31 But “[a]s it stands today, the relevant First
Amendment doctrine is a mind-numbing morass of tangled precedents
developed in contexts very different from professional licensing.” 32
        The “notoriously foggy” 33 speech–conduct dichotomy makes
“finding the line between speech and conduct . . . not as simple as asking
whether the prohibition is literally one against verbal or written ‘speech,’ on
the one hand, or one against ‘conduct’ (i.e., nonverbal action) on the
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(1942) (finding no protection for fighting words); Texas v. Johnson, 
491 U.S. 397, 406
 (1989)
(protecting flag burning); Police Dep’t of Chi. v. Mosley, 
408 U.S. 92
, 99 (1972) (protecting
picketing); W. Va. State Bd. of Educ. v. Barnette, 
319 U.S. 624, 642
 (1943) (protecting refusal
to salute the flag).
        27
             See supra note 22.
        28
             Hines I, 
783 F.3d at 202
 (adopting the professional-speech doctrine).
        29
             See NIFLA, 
585 U.S. at 768
 (collecting cases).
        30
           See 
id.
 (“Speech is not unprotected merely because it is uttered by
‘professionals.’”).
        31
             Vizaline, 
949 F.3d at 932
 (citing NIFLA, 585 U.S. at 771–75).
        32
        Tex. Dep’t of Ins. v. Stonewater Roofing, Ltd. Co., --- S.W.3d ----, No. 22-0427,
2024 WL 2869414
, at *16–17 (Tex. June 7, 2024) (Young, J., concurring).
        33
             Jenevein v. Willing, 
493 F.3d 551, 562
 (5th Cir. 2007).




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other.” 34 In as-applied challenges 35—especially those involving “generally
applicable regulation[s] of conduct,” such as the regulation here—a
particular act constitutes protected speech, rather than unprotected conduct,
if that act “consists of communicating a message.” 36
        For example, a generally applicable regulation proscribing breaching
the peace regulated speech, rather than conduct, when an individual was
arrested and convicted for wearing a jacket that said “F*** the Draft” inside
a courthouse. 37 The Supreme Court found the conviction to “clearly rest[]
upon the asserted offensiveness of the words [the plaintiff ] used to convey
his message to the public.” 38 Because “[t]he only ʻconduct’ which



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        34
             360 Virtual Drone Servs. LLC v. Ritter, 
102 F.4th 263, 274
 (4th Cir. 2024).
        35
           Dr. Hines’s complaint states both as-applied and facial challenges to the
physical-examination requirement. On appeal, Dr. Hines disclaimed his facial challenge.
Accordingly, we evaluate only his as-applied challenge. See United States v. Perez, 
43 F.4th 437, 443
 (5th Cir. 2022) (recognizing that “circuit practice” requires us to address an
as-applied challenge before a facial challenge).
        36
           Holder v. Humanitarian L. Project (HLP), 
561 U.S. 1
, 27–28 (2010) (concluding
that a law barring communications to certain groups when it “imparts a ‘specific skill’ or
communicates advice derived from ‘specialized knowledge’” functioned as a regulation of
speech, not conduct); see R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul, 
505 U.S. 377, 389
 (1992) (“[W]ords can
in some circumstances violate laws directed not against speech but against conduct.”).
Admittedly, in Giboney v. Empire Storage & Ice Co., the Court rejected the idea that free
speech protection extends “to speech or writing used as an integral part of conduct in
violation of a valid criminal statute,” 
336 U.S. 490, 498
 (1949), and emphasized that “[i]t
has never been deemed an abridgement of freedom of speech . . . to make a course of
conduct illegal merely because the conduct was in part initiated, evidenced, or carried out
by means of language, either spoken, written, or printed,” 
id. at 502
. But there, the case
involved expressive conduct that violated criminal law, not speech that violated
occupational regulations, as occurred here.
        37
             Cohen v. California, 
403 U.S. 15, 16
 (1971) (asterisks substituted).
        38
             
Id. at 18
.




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[California] sought to punish [wa]s the fact of communication,” the Supreme
Court applied First Amendment scrutiny and reversed the conviction. 39
        In another (and more apt) example, a law proscribing support for “the
humanitarian and political activities of” two designated terrorist
organizations, which “generally function[ed] as a regulation of conduct,”
regulated speech because as “applied to [the] plaintiffs[,] the conduct
triggering coverage under the statute consist[ed] of communicating a
message”—individualized legal advice. 40 As the court recognized, whether
the plaintiffs could speak with designated terrorist organizations “depend[ed]
on what they [said]” because the regulation barred certain forms of speech—
including “speech to those groups [that] impart[ed] a ʻspecific skill’ or
communicate[d] advice derived from ʻspecialized knowledge.’” 41
        Our goal then is to determine whether the physical-examination
requirement primarily affects Dr. Hines’s speech (“communication of a
message”) or his conduct by looking at what “trigger[s] coverage under the
statute.” 42
                                               B
        As explained below, the physical-examination requirement primarily
regulates Dr. Hines’s speech—and not merely incidentally to his conduct.
        The State contends that the law is primarily a conduct regulation
because the definition of practicing veterinary medicine applies to a “set of
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        39
             
Id.
 (emphasis added).
        40
          HLP, 561 U.S. at 10, 26–28; id. at 61 (Breyer, J., dissenting) (“[T]he majority
properly rejects . . . that the plaintiffs’ speech-related activities amount to ‘conduct’ and
should be reviewed as such.”).
        41
             Id. at 27.
        42
             See id. at 28; Expressions Hair Design v. Schneiderman, 
581 U.S. 37, 47
 (2017).




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skilled actions”—that is, conduct. But calling an act “speech” or “conduct”
(or “actions”) does not make it speech or conduct for First Amendment
analysis. 43 Indeed, the Supreme Court has been clear: “State labels cannot be
dispositive of [the] degree of First Amendment Protection.” 44 It is a court’s
duty to consider a “restriction’s effect, as applied, in a very practical
sense” 45—not to follow whatever label a state professes. If courts were
required to accept a governmental actor’s speech-or-conduct designation, we
would be compelled to forgo our solemn duty to “assess[] the First
Amendment interest at stake and weigh[] it against the public interest
allegedly served by the regulation.” 46 This means we must determine from
the evidence, rather than the parties’ labels, whether Dr. Hines’s course of
action involved speech. 47
        The State identified Dr. Hines’s provision of “individually tailored
diagnostic services and veterinary medical advice for specific animals” as
practicing veterinary medicine. 48 Dr. Hines was penalized specifically for
engaging in the practice of veterinary medicine without first establishing


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        43
         See Tex. Dep’t of Ins., 
2024 WL 2869414
, at *17 (Young, J., concurring)
(“[C]onduct and speech are not hermetically sealed categories.”).
        44
           NIFLA, 
585 U.S. at 773
 (original alteration omitted) (quoting Riley v. Nat’l
Fed’n of the Blind of N.C., Inc., 
487 U.S. 781, 796
 (1988)); see also 
id.
 (“States cannot choose
the protection that speech receives under the First Amendment, as that would give them a
powerful tool to impose invidious discrimination of disfavored subjects.” (internal
quotation marks and citation omitted)).
        45
             Thomas v. Collins, 
323 U.S. 516, 536
 (1945).
        46
             Bigelow v. Virginia, 
421 U.S. 809, 826
 (1975).
         See Freedom Path, Inc. v. IRS, 
913 F.3d 503, 508
 (5th Cir. 2019) (stating that an
        47

as applied challenge considers the “application” of a statute “to the particular
circumstances of an individual” (citation omitted)).
        48
             TEX. OCC. CODE § 801.002(5).




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VCPRs in person. 49 But in detailing the specific acts that constituted the
practice of veterinary medicine in violation of the physical-examination
requirement, the State pointed to Dr. Hines’s email exchanges in which he
communicated individualized diagnoses and treatment plans with various
animal owners.
       For example, Dr. Hines was contacted by an owner whose bird had
managed to remove a splint on its leg only a week after its placement by a
local veterinarian. The bird owner, who was concerned that the bird’s legs
were crossing and that this might inhibit its mobility, attached a video of the
bird to the email she sent Dr. Hines. Dr. Hines wrote back and informed the
owner that a splint was necessary to ensure the bird’s full recovery, and he
instructed the owner on how to make a splint and how to apply and adjust it.
The State concluded, based on the conclusions of its investigator and experts,
that Dr. Hines had engaged in the practice of veterinary medicine without
establishing a VCPR by communicating (via email) an individualized
diagnosis and treatment plan to the bird owner.
       Critically, not all of Dr. Hines’s conduct was barred. Indeed, the State
did not find Dr. Hines’s review of the owner’s email or video or the substance
of his diagnosis and treatment plan violative of the physical-examination
requirement; the State did not penalize Dr. Hines for viewing charts or
considering different medical reports. And the State did not penalize him for
applying a splint or administering medicine—nor could they. Instead, the
State only penalized him for his communication with the owner about her bird
in which he gave a diagnosis and treatment plan. In effect, the regulation only
kicked in when Dr. Hines began to share his opinion with his patient’s
owner—as is the case with all of Dr. Hines’s alleged violations of the

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            Id. §§ 801.351, .401, .402(4).




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physical-examination requirement. 50 Because the act in which Dr. Hines
engaged that “trigger[ed] coverage” under the physical-examination
requirement was the communication of a message, the State primarily
regulated Dr. Hines’s speech. 51
                                             V
        Regrettably, the Supreme Court’s content-neutrality jurisprudence is
not much clearer than its speech-conduct jurisprudence. 52 And here,



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        50
           Cf. Chiles v. Salazar, --- F.4th ----, No. 12-1445, 
2024 WL 4157902
 (10th Cir.
Sept. 12, 2024) (holding that a Colorado law banning “conversion therapy” for minors
regulated conduct and only incidentally burdened a therapist’s speech). Given our analysis
in today’s case, we are hesitant to embrace Chiles’s threshold conclusion that conduct, and
not speech, was the target of the Colorado law. Regardless, even if correct, Chiles is
inapposite. Colorado’s conversion-therapy law, unlike Texas’s pet-telehealth law,
regulates the substance of the medical care, not the form or manner of the care. Moreover,
the “conversion therapy” law aims to restrict any counselors engaged in providing such
therapy, regardless of how they provided that care; Dr. Hines’s speech, by contrast, is the
only part of his practice that is regulated.
        51
           See Cohen, 
403 U.S. at 18
; HLP, 561 U.S. at 28. We previously characterized the
physical-examination requirement as a conduct regulation in Hines I, and the State
contends this characterization controls. See 783 F.3d at 201–202, 202 n.20. But Hines I
merely described the physical-examination requirement in general terms. Here, Dr. Hines
brings an as-applied challenge, which tests the “particular application” of the physical-examination requirement to Dr. Hines. City of Los Angeles v. Patel, 
576 U.S. 409, 415
 (2015).
The Supreme Court “has often held that a valid statute was unconstitutionally applied in
particular circumstances because it interfered with an individual’s exercise of [free speech]
rights.” Boddie v. Connecticut, 
401 U.S. 371, 379
 (1971). The physical-examination
requirement’s general nature does not demonstrate whether the requirement regulates Dr.
Hines’s speech or conduct here.
        52
          The Court itself has often been divided over this question. See, e.g., McCullen v.
Coakley, 
573 U.S. 464
, 499 (2014) (Scalia, J., concurring in the judgment) (noting that
“the Court is divided 5–to–4” on the issue of content neutrality); City of Austin v. Reagan
Nat’l Advert. of Austin, LLC, 
596 U.S. 61
, 86–106 (2022) (Thomas, Gorsuch, and
Barrett, JJ., dissenting on the content-neutrality issue).




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“content neutrality is far from clear.” 53 Indeed, we are divided on the
issue, 54 “and the parties vigorously dispute the point.” 55
        These questions do not need a definitive answer today, 56 however,
because the law cannot withstand even intermediate scrutiny—the lowest tier
of scrutiny available for our analysis based on the facts in this case. 57
Accordingly, we assume without deciding that the law regulates Dr. Hines’s
speech in a content-neutral manner, meaning we apply intermediate rather
than strict scrutiny.
                                             A
        “[T]o survive intermediate scrutiny, a restriction on speech or
expression must be ‘narrowly tailored to serve a significant governmental
interest.’” 58 A content-neutral regulation will satisfy this test “if it furthers
an important governmental interest; if the governmental interest is unrelated
to the suppression of free expression; and if the incidental restriction on
alleged First Amendment freedoms is no greater than is essential to the
        _____________________
        53
             McCullen, 573 U.S. at 499 (Scalia, J., concurring in the judgment).
        54
             See post, at 29 (Ramirez, J., concurring).
        55
             McCullen, 573 U.S. at 499 (Scalia, J., concurring in the judgment).
        56
           Id. (collecting cases); see also Sorrell, 
564 U.S. at 571
. The concurrence would
decide this issue today, deeming the physical-exam requirement a content-based regulation
of Dr. Hines’s speech that is subject to strict scrutiny. Post, at 29. But since Texas’s
requirement fails even intermediate scrutiny, post, at 28—we need go no further.
        57
           McCullen, 573 U.S. at 498 (2014) (Scalia, J., concurring in the judgment)
(“[W]here a statute challenged on First Amendment grounds ‘fail[s] even under the [less
demanding] test,’” we need not “parse the differences between . . . two [available]
standards.” (quoting McCutcheon v. FEC, 
572 U.S. 185, 199
 (2014) (plurality opinion)));
see also Recht v. Morrisey, 
32 F.4th 398, 410
 (4th Cir. 2022) (“After all, if you can’t ski a
blue run successfully, you obviously can’t tackle a double black diamond.”).
        58
          City of Austin, 
596 U.S. at 76
 (citing Ward v. Rock Against Racism, 
491 U.S. 781, 791
 (1989)).




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furtherance of that interest.’” 59 While not as exacting as strict scrutiny,
intermediate scrutiny is no gimme for the government: “[I]ntermediate
scrutiny is still tough scrutiny, not a judicial rubber stamp.” 60 “[T]he burden
of justification is demanding and it rests entirely on the State.” 61
                                              B
       We first address the State’s asserted interests.
       While we assume that the State’s interests are significant in the
abstract, we conclude that the State has failed to show that the harms it seeks
to address with the physical-examination requirement are real. And even
assuming the State could make this showing, the physical-examination
requirement doesn’t alleviate those harms in a “direct and material way.” 62
       The State asserts four interests: “protecting animal welfare,
promoting public confidence in professional licensure, maintaining minimum
standards of care, and preventing the spread of zoonotic disease.” Dr. Hines
conceded before the district court that these interests are significant—at least
in the abstract—and he does not argue that the interests relate to the
suppression of speech. So we assume that the State’s interests are significant.
       But that does not end the inquiry. We must still examine whether the
physical-examination requirement “will in fact advance those interests.” 63
“When the Government defends a regulation on speech as a means to redress

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       59
          Nat’l Press Photographers Ass’n v. McCraw, 
90 F.4th 770, 793
 (5th Cir. 2024)
(quoting Turner Broad. Sys., Inc. v. FCC, 
512 U.S. 622, 662
 (1994)).
       60
       Cablevision Sys. Corp. v. F.C.C., 
597 F.3d 1306, 1323
 (D.C. Cir. 2010)
(Kavanaugh, J., dissenting).
       61
            United States v. Virginia, 
518 U.S. 515, 533
 (1996) (emphasis added).
       62
            See Turner Broad. Sys., 
512 U.S. at 664
.
       63
            
Id.




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past harms or prevent anticipated harms, it must do more than simply ‘posit
the existence of the disease sought to be cured.’” 64 Rather, “[i]t must
demonstrate that the recited harms are real, not merely conjectural, and that
the regulation will in fact alleviate these harms in a direct and material
way.” 65
        The State’s defense of the physical-examination requirement focuses
exclusively on its interest in animal welfare. 66 So we consider whether the
alleged harms to animal welfare are real, and if so, whether the statute
alleviates those alleged harms.
                                                1
        First, the State has failed to show that the alleged harms to animal
welfare in the context of the physical-examination requirement are real.
        The State alleges that the physical-examination requirement protects
animal welfare by reducing the risk that veterinarians will misdiagnose—and
thereby harm—animals. In other words, the harm the State seeks to address
is misdiagnosis by veterinarians who conduct telemedicine without first
performing a physical exam.
        To meet its burden to show that the harm it alleges is real, the State
may rely on empirical data, anecdotal evidence, and studies. 67 “The evidence
on which it relies need not ‘exist pre-enactment.’ It may also ‘pertain[] to

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        64
             
Id.
 (internal quotation marks and citation omitted).
        65
             
Id.
        66
            Although the State mentions its other three interests in passing, it provides no
argument on the means-end fit. Because the burden of justifying the law rests solely with
the State, it has at the very least failed to meet its burden under the other three interests if
it has not forfeited the argument.
        67
             Edenfield v. Fane, 
507 U.S. 761, 771
 (1993).




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different locales altogether.’ This requirement may also be satisfied with
‘history, consensus, and simple common sense.’” 68 But it cannot rely on
“mere speculation or conjecture.” 69
        As evidence of harm, the State presented a literature review, expert
testimony, anecdotal evidence, and expert analysis of Dr. Hines’s conduct.
Dr. Hines argues that this evidence is little more than conjecture. Although
we acknowledge that, in some cases, states may enact prospective
regulations, 70 and we acknowledge that the State’s concerns for animal
welfare are legitimate, we agree with Dr. Hines that the State has failed to
show sufficiently “real” harm as required by our precedents.
        We address each category of the State’s evidence in turn.
        First consider the State’s expert testimony. The State’s first expert,
Dr. Carly Patterson, testified to the general benefits of a physical exam. She
explained that “[t]he physical exam is the cornerstone of all veterinary care”
because “[w]ithout it, veterinarians are left to aimlessly pursue diagnostics
that might be needless and in the worst case scenario, completely circumvent
the actual problem at hand, resulting in the death of the patient.” 71 Because,
in her view, the physical exam “is what helps [veterinarians] localize the
actual nature of the problem,” she testified that “[i]n the absence of a
physical exam,” a veterinarian “cannot proceed forward with a logical and
defensible plan for [a] veterinary patient.” She also testified that in-person
        _____________________
        68
           Pub. Citizen Inc. v. La. Att’y Disciplinary Bd., 
632 F.3d 212, 221
 (5th Cir. 2011)
(citations omitted).
        69
             Edenfield, 
507 U.S. at 770
.
        70
          See Turner Broad. Sys., 
512 U.S. at 664
 (finding states may pass legislation to
“prevent anticipated harms”).
        71
          Although, notably, the State doesn’t point to any deaths that have occurred from
a telemedicine misdiagnosis.




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exams are “critical” because “pet owners can’t speak for the pet
themselves,” and “even diligent pet owners may miss the subtle clues that
only a physical exam can provide.”
       To support her opinion, she testified about two studies. The first was
a study of “one hundred apparently healthy dogs,” in which a physical exam
revealed “anomalies warranting additional assessment.” The study’s
authors “concluded that physical exam abnormalities are common in
apparently healthy older dogs, and the veterinarian is instrumental in health
screening by way of the history and physical exam.” The second study was
similar. It looked at “one hundred apparently healthy cats ages 6 years and
older[, and] found that less than half of the cats had an ideal body condition,
a majority of the cats had gingivitis, and 11% of the cats had a heart murmur
auscultated.” The study’s authors again “emphasized the need for regular
health checks in apparently healthy older cats due to the physical exam
abnormalities and additional focused diagnostic tests.”
       Dr. Patterson also provided anecdotal evidence. She pointed to five
cases from her own practice, which according to the State, “illustrate the
importance of the physical exam—and particularly, how telemedicine alone
would have been insufficient to treat these patients.” In each case, Dr.
Patterson testified that the animal presented with certain symptoms that
might have suggested one diagnosis, but the physical exam revealed problems
that she opined could not be discovered without a physical exam. Thus, in
her opinion, based on these anecdotes, while telemedicine may have “certain
distinct advantages for monitoring patients or fielding specific follow-up
questions after a diagnosis is made,” “it [cannot] substitute for [a patient]
history and physical exam.”
       The State’s second witness, Dr. Lori Teller, testified about her and
Dr. Patterson’s joint assessment of Dr. Hines’s conduct. They reviewed




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“representative examples of [Dr.] Hines’s telemedicine practice and
assessed it for potential harm.” Their review revealed “at least five instances
where [Dr.] Hines was practicing veterinary medicine and thus subject to
the” physical-examination requirement. They agreed that in these five
instances, his correspondence did not meet “the accepted standard of care.”
Dr. Teller testified that Dr. Hines “most likely” or “potentially” left these
animals in a “worse position.”
       The State’s expert testimony at least establishes that a physical exam
can detect conditions that may not have otherwise been discovered. But
neither expert identified any evidence of actual harm caused by telemedicine
without a prior physical examination.
       Before the district court, the State relied on a literature review
conducted by Dr. Teller. The State does not press this evidence before us
now, likely because the review didn’t find any evidence of actual harm. It
found “no published reports of veterinarians providing inadequate or
substandard care via virtual care.” And it found no “studies comparing in
clinic visits with telehealth visits to determine if there is concordance
between the findings of those exams.” Although it mentions “risks of missed
diagnoses” as a “concern[],” a hypothetical concern—even if seemingly
significant—is insufficient to identify a “real harm.”
       Dr. Patterson’s anecdotes fare no better. We agree with Dr. Hines that
these anecdotes are “guesses about what would have happened after
telemedicine that never occurred” rather than evidence of real harm. Like
Dr. Patterson’s testimony about the benefits of the physical exam, the
anecdotes at most establish that a physical exam can help veterinarians detect
ailments that they may have missed over a telemedicine appointment. A
missed diagnosis does not actively harm the animal; a misdiagnosis, on the




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other hand, might (neither of which Dr. Hines has done, according to the
record).
        The expert testimony about Dr. Hines’s conduct is the least
compelling. Dr. Hines has been answering emails for nearly twenty years. And
yet, Dr. Teller could not provide a single instance where Dr. Hines’s emails
harmed an animal. Indeed, she testified that Dr. Hines only “potentially” or
“‘likely’ harmed animals,” and she admitted multiple times that “it is
unknown if Dr. Hines’[s] actions caused harm.” This testimony cannot be
characterized as anything more than conjecture and speculation.
        The State has effectively proven that veterinarians believe that a
physical exam is helpful 72 and that telemedicine should be used only as a
follow up to the in-person exam. Indeed, a physical exam seems to be a plus
factor to a veterinarian’s analysis—a check for physical ailments or physical
manifestations of ailments that may not be readily apparent to a pet’s owner.
These are risks that an individual knowingly chooses to forego by choosing a
telemedicine appointment for their animal.
        But proving that a physical examination is helpful is not enough. The
State has failed to meet its burden of proving that misdiagnoses from
telemedicine are a real harm in this case. The State emphasizes that the
physical exam reduces the risk of misdiagnosis from telemedicine without an
exam and argues that it can enact prophylactic rules before the harm occurs.

        _____________________
        72
           The literature review also pointed to a survey of Portuguese veterinarians, in
which “most participants acknowledged that the service provided by teleconsultations is
complementary to that of physical consultations but stressed the need for having a face-toface interaction before resorting to telematic means.” Again, this doesn’t say anything
about whether using telemedicine without a physical exam would cause harm. See Pub.
Citizen Inc., 
632 F.3d at 222
 (noting that survey responses the State relied on “fail[ed] to
point to any specific harms or to how they will be alleviated by [the challenged
regulation]”).




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Both are true, and the State’s interest in reducing misdiagnoses is legitimate.
But the State cannot meet its burden of proving real harm by pointing to
“risks” of harm—or hypothetical concerns—that, according to the
evidence, have never materialized. 73
        The district court faulted Dr. Hines for failing to provide “any
controverting evidence,” so it concluded “no genuine issue exists on the
matter.” But it is the State’s burden to prove real harm, 74 and it has failed to
do so here.
                                               2
        Even if the harms alleged by the State were real, as the State contends,
the law suffers from a fatal defect: The State fails to prove that the law
“alleviate[s] these harms in a direct and material way.” 75
        The first problem with the State’s chosen means is apparent on the
face of the statute itself. There are two ways a vet can establish the VCPR,
and one of them doesn’t require a physical exam at all. To recap, a
veterinarian must first establish a VCPR before practicing veterinary


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        73
          See, e.g., Junior Sports Mags. Inc. v. Bonta, 
80 F.4th 1109, 1117
 (9th Cir. 2023)
(“To start with the obvious, a state may not restrict protected speech to prevent something
that does not appear to occur . . . . And if the state cannot cite a single case of a minor in
California unlawfully buying a gun, then an advertisement about firearms logically could
not have contributed to such a sale.”); McCraw v. City of Oklahoma City, 
973 F.3d 1057
,
1071–72 (10th Cir. 2020) (“Critically, this record is devoid of evidence that accidents
involving vehicles and pedestrians on medians in Oklahoma City is an actual issue, as
opposed to a hypothetical concern.”); IMS Health Inc. v. Sorrell, 
630 F.3d 263, 276
 (2d
Cir. 2010), aff’d, 
564 U.S. 552
 (2011) (“Vermont’s own expert was unaware of any instance
in which a detailing interaction caused a doctor to prescribe an inappropriate
medication.”).
        74
             See Virginia, 
518 U.S. at 533
.
        75
             See Turner Broad. Sys., 
512 U.S. at 664
.




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medicine. 76 The VCPR exists “if the veterinarian: . . . possesses sufficient
knowledge of the animal.” 77 And “[a] veterinarian possesses sufficient
knowledge of the animal . . . if the veterinarian has recently seen, or is
personally acquainted with, the keeping and care of the animal by:
(1) examining the animal; or (2) making medically appropriate and timely
visits to the premises on which the animal is kept.” 78 But the VCPR cannot
“be established solely by telephone or electronic means.” 79
       The State does not explain how the law alleviates the harm of
misdiagnoses from telemedicine without a physical exam when the VCPR
can also be established by a visit to the premises without a physical exam.
Although the State’s experts testified that the premises-visit option is
typically used for herd animals, she conceded it is not so limited, testifying
that the “premises” visited “could be the premises on which a dog is kept.”
Nor does the plain text provide this limitation. 80 And furthermore, the State
fails to explain why a “recent[]” physical examination—which has no
definition—is sufficient to establish a VCPR. For example, why would a
“recent” physical examination in the last year or two provide any better
insight into an animal’s condition than a real-time telehealth appointment
without a preceding physical examination? 81
       If that weren’t enough, the State’s looser approach to human welfare
undercuts the State’s insistence on a physical exam to advance animal

       _____________________
       76
            TEX. OCC. CODE § 801.351(a).
       77
            Id. § 801.351(a)(2).
       78
            Id. § 801.351(b) (emphasis added).
       79
            Id. § 801.351(c).
       80
            See id. § 801.351(b).
       81
            See id. § 801.351(b).




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welfare. After all, the State of Texas allows exam-free telemedicine for babies
and    noncommunicative             adults—those       who,     like    animals,     cannot
communicate with their physicians. How can the State insist a hands-on
exam is necessary to protect animals while conceding a hands-on exam is
unnecessary to protect humans? 82 Put differently, why does Texas mandate
tougher telehealth rules for veterinarians treating animals than for physicians
treating people? 83 The State does not say.
                                              C
        The law suffers from one final defect: It is not narrowly tailored.
        In making this determination, we consider whether the physical-examination requirement “burden[s] substantially more speech than is
necessary to further the government’s legitimate interests.” 84 At this stage,
we consider “the availability and efficacy of ‘constitutionally acceptable less
restrictive means’ of achieving the [state’s] asserted interests,” while

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        82
           “If a pediatrician can use telemedicine to treat a three-month old infant—based
upon medical records, the parent’s description of external symptoms and a visual
examination of the child—the Court cannot adduce why a veterinarian cannot do the same
for a dog, cat, or hamster.” Hines II, 
982 F.3d at 279
 (Elrod, J., concurring in part and
dissenting in part) (quoting Hines v. Quillivan, No. CV B-18-155, 
2019 WL 13036103
, at *15
(S.D. Tex. Feb. 19, 2019), report and recommendation adopted in part, rejected in part, 
395 F. Supp. 3d 857
 (S.D. Tex. 2019), aff’d in part, rev’d in part and remanded, 
982 F.3d 266
 (5th
Cir. 2020)).
        83
           See Hines II, 
982 F.3d at 280
 (Elrod, J., concurring in part and dissenting in
part) (“Babies and other non-communicative adults were intentional beneficiaries of
Texas’s expansion of telemedicine, not the subjects of unwitting overinclusion. Texas has
never shown a preference for animals over humans that would support requiring higher
standards for animals’ medical treatment. Cf. Strickland v. Medlen, 
397 S.W.3d 184, 185
(Tex. 2013) (Willett, J.) (holding that dog owners could not recover non-economic
damages for loss of companionship under Texas tort law because ‘[p]ets are property in the
eyes of the law.’).”).
        84
             Turner Broad. Sys., 
512 U.S. at 662
 (quoting Ward, 
491 U.S. at 799
).




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keeping in mind that the regulation does not have to be the least restrictive
means of advancing the State’s interest. 85
        Dr. Hines proposed a number of less restrictive alternatives. But the
district court failed to address any of them. And the State contends that it did
not have to reject alternatives at all because “the Board was obligated to
enforce the Physical Examination Requirement adopted by the Legislature.”
It cites no authority for this proposition. The burden rests with the State to
prove that “it seriously undertook to address the problem with less intrusive
tools readily available to it,” 86 and that burden often falls on the State officials
that are sued. 87 In the alternative, the State contends that its experts rejected
Dr. Hines’s less-restrictive alternatives. But its argument—and the expert
testimony on which it relies—is unpersuasive.
        Take one example. Dr. Hines proposed that the State could “instruct
veterinarians not to give veterinary advice without a physical exam if, in the
speaker’s professional judgment, he or she cannot provide useful help.” Dr.
Hines alleges that he already does this. The State provided no answer to why
this alternative wouldn’t work other than reasserting that the requirement is
in the statute, and the Board “[has] to enforce the statute.” But, in fact, based
on Dr. Teller’s testimony, veterinarians already do this when performing
telemedicine. When asked about her practices for conducting telemedicine,
Dr. Teller responded that after she establishes a VCPR by a physical exam
or a visit to the premises, “[she] would determine if [she could] provide

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        85
             
Id.
 (citation omitted).
        86
             McCullen, 573 U.S. at 494.
        87
          See, e.g., Nat’l Press Photographers Ass’n, 90 F.4th at 793–94 (suit against
McCraw in his official capacity as the Director of the Texas Department of Public Safety).
And here, the Board is represented by the Texas Attorney General, the State’s chief legal
officer.




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follow-up care via telemedicine or if [she] needed to see that patient, do a
physical[,] or make a visit to the premises,” “based on what [she] already
knew about the client and about the patient.” And as Dr. Hines suggests,
veterinarians are required to use their professional judgment in many
contexts. The State does not explain why this rule wouldn’t work the same
way for establishing a VCPR in the first instance, as Dr. Hines suggests. Nor
did the State have any answer to Dr. Hines’s similar proposal that the State
could require “a trip to the veterinarian only when reasonable under the
circumstances,” or require consent from owners before performing
telemedicine without a physical exam.
        The State’s contention that “at present, there is no alternative to the
physical exam that outweighs the risks of causing animal harm or death from
an improper diagnosis and treatment plan” rings hollow because as explained
above, the statute itself provides an alternative. The VCPR can be
established—and not just maintained—by a visit to the premises without a
physical exam. And the veterinarian need never lay eyes on the animal during
the visit.
        Although the law does not have to be the least restrictive means to pass
intermediate scrutiny, it must still be a close fit, and the State must show that
it doesn’t “regulate expression in such a manner that a substantial portion of
the burden on speech does not serve to advance its goals.” 88 If Dr. Hines has
never actually harmed any animal—and the State provides zero evidence that
he has—then the heavy burden on his speech doesn’t advance the State’s
interest in animal welfare. 89

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        88
             Ward, 
491 U.S. at 799
.
        89
         See also McCullen, 573 U.S. at 493–94 (“The point is not that Massachusetts
must enact all or even any of the proposed measures discussed above. The point is instead




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        A physical-examination requirement may be an efficient and effective
way to protect animal welfare by reducing the risk of missed diagnoses, and
“[w]here certain speech is associated with particular problems, silencing the
speech is sometimes the path of least resistance. But by demanding a close fit
between ends and means, the tailoring requirement prevents the government
from too readily ‘sacrific[ing] speech for efficiency.’” 90 The State has failed
to carry its burden of showing the necessary narrow tailoring here.
                                            VI
        The State of Texas has failed to meet its burden under intermediate
scrutiny. Accordingly, we REVERSE the district court’s judgment and
REMAND with instructions to enter judgment for Dr. Hines.




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that the Commonwealth has available to it a variety of approaches that appear capable of
serving its interests, without excluding individuals from areas historically open for speech
and debate.”).
        90
             
Id.




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Irma Carrillo Ramirez, Circuit Judge, concurring:
       While I agree that the case should be reversed and remanded with
instructions to enter judgment in favor of Dr. Hines, I write separately
because the physical examination requirement, as applied to him, is a
content-based speech restriction that does not survive strict scrutiny.
                                        I
       Deciding whether a restriction is content neutral or content based is
no simple task, as “not all content-based regulations are alike.” R.A.V. v. City
of St. Paul, 
505 U.S. 377, 429
 (1992) (Stevens, J., concurring in the judgment).
In this third iteration of the case, the district court first found that the PER,
“[a]s applied to [Dr.] Hines, . . . regulate[d] speech” in a “content-based”
manner, Hines v. Quillivan, No. 1:18-CV-155, 
2021 WL 6618658
, at *10 (S.D.
Tex. July 29, 2021), report and recommendation adopted, 
2021 WL 5833886
(S.D. Tex. Dec. 9, 2021), then later concluded that it represented a content-neutral regulation of speech. Hines v. Pardue, 
688 F. Supp. 3d 522
, 550–52
(S.D. Tex. 2023). “Th[is] determination dictates the level of scrutiny the
challenged restriction must meet in order to pass muster”—if content based,
then strict scrutiny applies; if content neutral, then intermediate scrutiny
applies. Tex. Ent. Ass’n, Inc. v. Hegar, 
10 F.4th 495
, 509 (5th Cir. 2021); see
also SDJ, Inc. v. City of Houston, 
837 F.2d 1268, 1274
 (5th Cir. 1988) (“Our
task in setting the level of review is to strike for that point of equilibrium that
vindicates [F]irst [A]mendment values at the least cost to a state’s decisional
arrangements.”).
                                        A
       “Regulations which permit the Government to discriminate on the
basis of the content of [a] message cannot be tolerated under the First
Amendment.” Regan v. Time, Inc., 
468 U.S. 641
, 648–49 (1984). If a speech
regulation “require[s] ‘enforcement authorities’ to ‘examine the content of




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the message that is conveyed to determine whether’ a violation has occurred,” then it is content based. McCullen v. Coakley, 
573 U.S. 464
, 479
(2014) (quoting FCC v. League of Women Voters of Cal., 
468 U.S. 364, 383
(1984)). Put differently, when someone wishes to speak and their ability to do
so “depends on what they say,” the applicable speech regulation is content
based. Holder v. Humanitarian L. Project (HLP), 
561 U.S. 1
, 27 (2010); see also
Hill v. Colorado, 
530 U.S. 703, 738
 (2000) (Souter, J., concurring) (“The effect of speech is a product of ideas and circumstances . . . . The question is
simply whether the ostensible reason for regulating the circumstances is really something about the ideas.”). As long as the enforcing authority need not
examine what the speech expresses to determine whether a violation has occurred, then the regulation is content neutral. McCullen, 573 U.S. at 479.
       McCullen concerned a law that stated:
       No person shall knowingly enter or remain on a public way or
       sidewalk adjacent to a reproductive health care facility within a
       radius of 35 feet of any portion of an entrance, exit or driveway
       of a reproductive health care facility or within the area within a
       rectangle created by extending the outside boundaries of any
       entrance, exit or driveway of a reproductive health care facility
       in straight lines to the point where such lines intersect the sideline of the street in front of such entrance, exit or driveway.
Mass. Gen. Laws. Ann. ch. 266, § 120E½(b) (West 2013). Because the
law only applied to “reproductive health care facilit[ies],” i.e., “place[s],
other than within or upon the grounds of a hospital, where abortions are offered or performed,” id. § 120E½(a), the plaintiffs contended it was content
based as applied 1 because “virtually all speech affected by the [law] [wa]s

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       1
        By the time McCullen reached the Supreme Court, only as-applied challenges
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speech concerning abortion, McCullen, 573 U.S. at 479. But the Court disagreed, stating that the law was content neutral because whether the plaintiffs
violated it “‘depend[ed]’ not ‘on what they sa[id],’ but simply on where they
sa[id] it.” Id. (citation omitted) (quoting HLP, 561 U.S. at 27). The plaintiffs
could violate the law, the Court found, “merely by standing in a buffer zone,
without displaying a sign or uttering a word.” Id. at 480. Therefore, the law
was content neutral.
       Here, it is the interaction between the PER and the statutory definition of practicing veterinary medicine as applied to Dr. Hines that he challenges as a content-based restriction on his speech. To determine whether Dr.
Hines engaged in the practice of veterinary medicine, the State examined his
words. Where Dr. Hines’s communications conveyed general information regarding veterinary care that was not tailored to a specific animal, the State
found that Dr. Hines had not engaged in the practice of veterinary medicine.
Where he had communicated veterinary-care information tailored to a specific animal, however, the State drew the opposite conclusion. Whether the
PER regulated Dr. Hines’s speech required the State to inspect his specific
writings, so as applied, the PER is a content-based speech regulation. See
McCullen, 573 U.S. at 479.
       For example, a pigeon’s owner contacted Dr. Hines about advice he
had received for applying a wrap to the pigeon’s wounded wing. Dr. Hines
wrote back with advice about the pigeon’s wing and how to assess the wrap.
Because Dr. Hines communicated veterinary advice specific to this pigeon,
the State determined that he had practiced veterinary medicine. By contrast,
when a dog owner wrote to Dr. Hines about the dog’s persistent itching and
barking, Dr. Hines responded with several differential diagnoses and generally referred the dog owner to recommendations for various anti-flea and
anti-tick products. Because Dr. Hines had only communicated general




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information not tailored to the owner’s dog, the State determined that Dr.
Hines had not practiced veterinary medicine.
        Because the determination of whether Dr. Hines violated Texas law
“depend[ed] on what [he] sa[id]”—that is, whether his communications
constituted personalized advice—the PER is a content-based speech restriction. See HLP, 561 U.S. at 27.
                                              B
        The State contends the PER is content neutral under City of Austin v.
Reagan National Advertising of Austin, LLC and Ward v. Rock Against Racism.
Both concerned facial challenges, however. See City of Austin v. Reagan Nat’l
Advert. of Austin, LLC, 
596 U.S. 61, 76
 (2022) (“[T]he City’s ordinance is
facially content neutral.”); Ward v. Rock Against Racism, 
491 U.S. 781, 790, 803
 (1989) (finding the “content-neutral” ordinance “valid on its face”).
Here, Dr. Hines brings an as-applied challenge. This distinction matters because the analyses in City of Austin and Ward generally center on the text and
enactment history, respectively, of the regulation being challenged. See City
of Austin, 
596 U.S. at 69
; Ward, 
491 U.S. at 791
. By contrast, the analysis in
McCullen centers on the implementation of the regulation by the enforcing authority, which is more apt for the fact-specific nature of as-applied challenges
such as Dr. Hines’s. 2 See United States v. Marcavage, 
609 F.3d 264, 273
 (3d
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        2
            While the test from McCullen does not apply exclusively to as-applied challenges,
see, e.g., League of Women Voters, 
468 U.S. at 383
, its contextual utility appears greater since
as-applied challenges examine the “implementation” of the law while facial challenges
examine the “text” of that law, see Whole Woman’s Health All. v. Hill, 
937 F.3d 864, 875
(7th Cir. 2019). As McCullen demonstrates, whether a law is content based or content
neutral as applied may turn on whether the content of the speech must be examined to
determine if that law has been violated. See 573 U.S. at 464. Without a framework to analyze
whether a regulation has been implemented in a content-based way, broad yet facially
neutral regulations could be enacted and then enforced based on content, only to have those




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Cir. 2010) (“A facial attack tests a law’s constitutionality based on its text
alone and does not consider the facts or circumstances of a particular case.
An as-applied attack, in contrast, does not contend that a law is unconstitutional as written but that its application to a particular person under particular
circumstances deprived that person of a constitutional right.” (citation omitted)).
         But even assuming arguendo that the PER is content neutral under
City of Austin and Ward, it may nevertheless be content based under McCullen. 3 A law may be facially content neutral yet content based in application.
See, e.g., Ness v. City of Bloomington, 
11 F.4th 914
, 923–24 (8th Cir. 2021) (finding a speech restriction content based as applied even when assuming its facial content neutrality arguendo); see also Eugene Volokh, Speech as Conduct:
Generally Applicable Laws, Illegal Courses of Conduct, “Situation-Altering Utterances,” and the Uncharted Zones, 
90 Cornell L. Rev. 1277
, 1286–94
(2005) (discussing “content-based as applied” laws).
         Here, the PER, on its face, is a generally applicable conduct regulation. This does not mean the PER is automatically content neutral as applied
to Dr. Hines, however. See, e.g., HLP, 561 U.S. at 26–27 (finding that even
though a law’s prohibition “most often does not take the form of speech at
all,” it may still be a content-based speech restriction as applied).

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regulations face relaxed scrutiny in as-applied challenges. See Hoye v. City of Oakland, 
653 F.3d 835, 854
 (9th Cir. 2011) (“Courts must be willing to entertain the possibility that
content-neutral enactments are enforced in a content-discriminatory manner. If they were
not, the First Amendment’s guarantees would risk becoming an empty formality, as
government could enact regulations on speech written in a content-neutral manner so as to
withstand judicial scrutiny, but then proceed to ignore the regulations’ content-neutral
terms by adopting a content-discriminatory enforcement policy.”).
         3
        The State does not cite, and we cannot find, authority holding that City of Austin
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Irrespective of the PER’s facial nature, the PER has been enforced against
Dr. Hines in a content-based manner.
        The State also contends that the PER is content neutral because it
need not decide on whether it agrees with the contents of Dr. Hines’s advice.
But content-based and viewpoint-based discrimination are not the same. 4
While viewpoint discrimination is “a particularly ‘egregious form of content
discrimination,’” Vidal v. Elster, 
602 U.S. 286, 293
 (2024) (quoting Rosenberger, 515 U.S. at 829), not all content discrimination is viewpoint discrimination, Reed v. Town of Gilbert, 
576 U.S. 155
, 168–69 (2015). See also, e.g.,
Iancu v. Brunetti, 
588 U.S. 388, 420
 (2019) (Sotomayor, J., concurring in part
and dissenting in part) (describing the breach-of-the-peace statute in Cohen
v. California as “viewpoint-neutral content discrimination”). Because the
PER, operating in conjunction with the definition of practicing veterinary
medicine, “singles out specific subject matter”—i.e., veterinary advice specifically concerning the animals of Dr. Hines’s clients—“for differential
treatment,” the PER is a content-based speech restriction even though “it
does not target viewpoints within that subject matter.” Reed, 
576 U.S. at 169
.
                                              II
        Strict scrutiny requires the State to show that the PER is “‘narrowly
tailored’ to ‘further compelling governmental interests.’” McDonald v.



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        4
          “Viewpoint discrimination exists ‘when the specific motivating ideology or the
opinion or perspective of the speaker is the rationale for the restriction.’” Heaney v. Roberts,
846 F.3d 795, 802
 (5th Cir. 2017) (quoting Rosenberger v. Rector & Visitors of Univ. of Va.,
515 U.S. 819, 829
 (1995)). Because it is “uniquely harmful to a free and democratic
society,” Nat’l Rifle Ass’n of Am. v. Vullo, 
602 U.S. 175
, 187 (2024), viewpoint
discrimination is “presumptively unconstitutional,” Chiu v. Plano Indep. Sch. Dist., 
339 F.3d 273, 284
 (5th Cir. 2003).




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Longley, 
4 F.4th 229, 246
 (5th Cir. 2021) (quoting Johnson v. California, 
543 U.S. 499, 505
 (2005)).
       Since “[s]trict scrutiny is ‘the most demanding test known to
constitutional law,’” Russell v. Lundergan-Grimes, 
784 F.3d 1037, 1050
 (6th
Cir. 2015) (quoting City of Boerne v. Flores, 
521 U.S. 507, 534
 (1997)), the
showing the State must make is sizable. See R.A.V., 
505 U.S. at 382
(“Content-based regulations are presumptively invalid.”). The State
attempts to satisfy its burden with a single sentence: “[I]f the Court
determines that strict scrutiny applies, the [PER] would meet it for the same
reasons that it satisfies intermediate scrutiny.” This conclusory assertion
does not suffice to show that the PER is narrowly tailored to the compelling
governmental interests asserted by the State. See Brown v. Ent. Merchs. Ass’n,
564 U.S. 786
, 799–800 (2011). Considering strict scrutiny’s “heavy thumb
on the scale in favor of the individual right in question,” Heller v. District of
Columbia, 
670 F.3d 1244, 1282
 (D.C. Cir. 2011) (Kavanaugh, J., dissenting),
the State has not met its burden.
                                    
       Because the PER requires the State to examine the content of the
messages Dr. Hines communicated to determine whether a violation has
occurred, the PER is a content-based restriction of Dr. Hines’s speech, and
strict scrutiny applies. The State failed to satisfy strict scrutiny.




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