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137 F.4th 1333

Ecofactor, Inc. v. Google LLC

U.S. Courts of Appeals

Decided May 21, 2025

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    United States Court of Appeals
        for the Federal Circuit
                  ______________________

                   ECOFACTOR, INC.,
                    Plaintiff-Appellee

                             v.

                     GOOGLE LLC,
                   Defendant-Appellant
                  ______________________

                        2023-1101
                  ______________________

    Appeal from the United States District Court for the
 Western District of Texas in No. 6:20-cv-00075-ADA, Judge
 Alan D Albright.
                  ______________________

                  Decided: May 21, 2025
                  ______________________

      BRIAN DAVID LEDAHL, Russ August & Kabat, Los Angeles, CA, argued for plaintiff-appellee. Also represented by
 KRISTOPHER DAVIS, MARC A. FENSTER, MINNA JAY, REZA
 MIRZAIE, JAMES PICKENS.

     GINGER ANDERS, Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP, Washington, DC, argued for defendant-appellant. Also represented by VINCENT LING, Los Angeles, CA; EVAN JENNINGS
 MANN, San Francisco, CA; STEPHANIE JILL GOLDBERG,
 KRISTIN ELIZABETH HUCEK, LEO L. LAM, ROBERT ADAM
 LAURIDSEN, EUGENE M. PAIGE, ROBERT A. VAN NEST,
 Keker, Van Nest & Peters LLP, San Francisco, CA.
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                   ______________________

  Before MOORE, Chief Judge, LOURIE, DYK, PROST, REYNA,
    TARANTO, CHEN, HUGHES, STOLL, and STARK, Circuit
                        Judges. 1
      Opinion for the court filed by Chief Judge MOORE, in
     which Circuit Judges LOURIE, DYK, PROST, TARANTO,
               CHEN, HUGHES, and STOLL join.
         Opinion concurring in part and dissenting in part
     filed by Circuit Judge REYNA, in which Circuit Judge
                          STARK joins.
         Opinion concurring in part and dissenting in part
     filed by Circuit Judge STARK, in which Circuit Judge
                         REYNA joins.
 MOORE, Chief Judge.
     Relevant to this en banc proceeding, Google LLC
 (Google) appeals an order from the United States District
 Court for the Western District of Texas denying Google’s
 motion for a new trial on damages. We reverse the district
 court’s denial of Google’s motion and remand for a new trial
 on damages.
     Google also appeals the district court’s denial of its motion for summary judgment of invalidity under 
35 U.S.C. § 101
 and denial of its motion for judgment as a matter of
 law (JMOL) of noninfringement. On June 3, 2024, a panel
 of this court affirmed the denial of JMOL and denial of a
 new trial and held the denial of summary judgment was
 not appealable. We reinstate the panel opinion as to the
 issues other than damages.




      1Circuit Judge Newman and Circuit Judge Cunningham did not participate.
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                        BACKGROUND
     EcoFactor, Inc. (EcoFactor) owns 
U.S. Patent No. 8,738,327,
 which relates to the operation of smart thermostats in computer-networked heating and cooling systems. ’327 patent at 1:22–25. In January 2020, EcoFactor
 sued Google in the Western District of Texas, alleging
 Google’s Nest thermostats infringed claims of the ’327 patent, among other patents. Complaint, EcoFactor, Inc. v.
 Google LLC, No. 6:20-cv-00075 (W.D. Tex. Jan. 31, 2020),
 ECF No. 1. After discovery, Google moved for summary
 judgment that all asserted claims of the ’327 patent, including claim 5, were directed to patent-ineligible subject matter under 
35 U.S.C. § 101
 and were therefore invalid. See
 J.A. 1134, 1151. 2 The district court denied the motion.
 J.A. 5046 at 31:17–18.
     Before trial, Google moved to exclude testimony from
 EcoFactor’s damages expert, David Kennedy, under Federal Rule of Evidence 702 and Daubert v. Merrell Dow
 Pharmaceuticals, Inc., 
509 U.S. 579
 (1993). 3 S.A. 156–57. 4
 Specifically, Google argued Mr. Kennedy’s testimony that
 $X is an established royalty for the patented technology
 was unsupported by reliable methodology or sufficient
 facts. 
Id.
 The district court denied the motion. J.A. 2254.
     At trial, Mr. Kennedy opined that Google should pay
 damages in the amount of $X per allegedly infringing unit.
 J.A. 5780 at 644:13–16. The jury found Google infringed
 claim 5 of the ’327 patent and awarded EcoFactor



     2    “J.A.” refers to the parties’ Joint Appendix filed at
 ECF No. 14.
      3   This motion, objecting to the admissibility of
 Mr. Kennedy’s testimony, suffices to preserve this issue for
 appeal. FED. R. EVID. 103(b).
      4   “S.A.” refers to the parties’ Supplemental Appendix
 filed at ECF No. 209.
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 $20,019,300 in lump-sum damages. 5 J.A. 45, 49. Google
 filed a renewed motion for JMOL of noninfringement,
 J.A. 157, and a motion for a new trial on damages, arguing
 Mr. Kennedy’s opinion should have been excluded from
 trial because it was unreliable, S.A. 961–80. The district
 court denied the motions, J.A. 6662 at 64:4–6; J.A. 6688 at
 90:6–7, and Google appealed.
     A panel of this court unanimously affirmed the district
 court’s denial of JMOL of noninfringement and held the denial of summary judgment was not appealable. EcoFactor,
 Inc. v. Google LLC, 
104 F.4th 243
, 248–51 (Fed. Cir. 2024),
 reh’g en banc granted, opinion vacated, 
115 F.4th 1380
 (Fed. Cir. 2024) (En Banc Order). On the denial of Google’s
 motion for a new trial on damages, the panel affirmed, but
 with a dissent. 
Id.
 at 251–57; 
id.
 at 257–62 (Prost, J., dissenting-in-part). Google petitioned for rehearing en banc,
 arguing the majority erroneously affirmed the denial of a
 new trial on damages because Mr. Kennedy’s damages testimony was unreliable and therefore inadmissible. We
 granted Google’s petition and ordered briefing and argument on the following damages issue:
     The parties are requested to file new briefs, which
     shall be limited to addressing the district court’s
     adherence to Federal Rule of Evidence 702 and
     Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, Inc., 
509 U.S. 579
 (1993), in its allowance of testimony from
     EcoFactor’s damages expert assigning a per-unit




     5   The lump sum award by the jury did not equate to
 the royalty sought by EcoFactor or the royalty proposed by
 Google.
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     royalty rate to the three licenses in evidence in this
     case. 6
 En Banc Order at 1380. In addition to the parties’ briefs, 7
 we received twenty-one amicus briefs. We heard oral argument on March 13, 2025. We have jurisdiction under 
28 U.S.C. § 1295
(a)(1).
                            DISCUSSION
                       I.      New Trial
     Google argues the district court abused its discretion in
 denying a new trial on damages because Mr. Kennedy’s expert opinion was unreliable under Rule 702 and Daubert.
 We agree.
      “For issues not unique to patent law, we apply the law
 of the regional circuit in which this appeal would otherwise
 lie.” i4i Ltd. P’ship v. Microsoft Corp., 
598 F.3d 831, 841
 (Fed. Cir. 2010). The Fifth Circuit reviews the denial of a
 motion for a new trial for abuse of discretion. Fornesa v.
 Fifth Third Mortg. Co., 
897 F.3d 624, 627
 (5th Cir. 2018).



     6    Judge Reyna’s partial dissent suggests that contract interpretation is “contrary to the scope of the en banc
 appeal.” Reyna Dissent at 7. We do not agree. The three
 licenses Mr. Kennedy interpreted are in fact contracts.
 The question presented focused on whether Mr. Kennedy’s
 expert opinion about the interpretation of the licenses satisfies Rule 702 and Daubert. Interpretation of the licenses
 is fairly included within the question presented.
      7   In addition to the issue on which rehearing en banc
 was granted, Google’s opening brief addressed the issue of
 whether the expert damages testimony was reliably apportioned. Appellant Br. 41–58. The apportionment arguments exceed the scope of the rehearing that was granted,
 and we instructed EcoFactor that it need not address that
 portion of Google’s brief. ECF No. 165.
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 The Fifth Circuit reviews a trial court’s decision to admit
 expert testimony for abuse of discretion. In re MBS Mgmt.
 Servs., Inc., 
690 F.3d 352, 354
 (5th Cir. 2012). If expert
 testimony was improperly admitted, “we next review the
 error under the harmless error doctrine, affirming the
 judgment, unless the ruling affected substantial rights of
 the complaining party.” Vogler v. Blackmore, 
352 F.3d 150, 154
 (5th Cir. 2003) (quoting Bocanegra v. Vicmar Servs.,
 Inc., 
320 F.3d 581, 584
 (5th Cir. 2003)).
     “[I]t may be an abuse of discretion for the trial court
 not to create a record suitable for review of its admissibility
 decision. A sufficient record is one that includes both the
 court’s ruling and the reasons for that ruling.” 4 Jack B.
 Weinstein & Margaret A. Berger, Weinstein’s Federal Evidence § 702.02[6][d] (Mark S. Brodin, ed., Matthew Bender
 2d ed. 2025); see also In re Volkswagen of Am., Inc., 
545 F.3d 304
, 310 n.4 (5th Cir. 2008) (en banc) (“Meaningful
 appellate review of the exercise of discretion requires consideration of the basis on which the trial court acted.”
 (quoting Gurmankin v. Costanzo, 
626 F.2d 1115
, 1119–20
 (3d Cir. 1980))). In this case, the district court gave no rationale for ruling that the expert testimony was admissible
 or denying Google’s motion for a new trial on damages.
 J.A. 2254 (omnibus order denying Google’s motion in
 limine without reasoning); J.A. 6688 at 90:6–7 (denying
 Google’s motion for a new trial from the bench). An absence
 of reviewable reasoning may be sufficient grounds for this
 court to conclude the district court abused its discretion. In
 addition, of importance to this case on remand and to other
 cases involving patent damages, we also conclude that the
 denial of Google’s motion was an abuse of discretion on this
 record because Mr. Kennedy’s opinion that the licenses
 show industry acceptance of an $X per unit royalty rate is
 not based upon sufficient facts or data.
     Federal Rule of Evidence 702 governs the admissibility
 of expert testimony. The version of the Rule that governed
 at the time of the district court’s decision read as follows:
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     A witness who is qualified as an expert by
     knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education
     may testify in the form of an opinion or otherwise
     if:
     (a) the expert’s scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will help the trier of fact to
         understand the evidence or to determine a fact
         in issue;
     (b) the testimony is based on sufficient facts or
         data;
     (c) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods; and
     (d) the expert has reliably applied the principles
         and methods to the facts of the case.
 FED. R. EVID. 702 (2011).
     The Supreme Court explained in Daubert that the trial
 judge plays a “gatekeeping role,” 
509 U.S. at 597
, through
 which it must “ensure that any and all scientific testimony
 or evidence admitted is not only relevant, but reliable,” 
id. at 589
. “And where such testimony’s factual basis, data,
 principles, methods, or their application are called sufficiently into question, the trial judge must determine
 whether the testimony has ‘a reliable basis in the
 knowledge and experience of [the relevant] discipline.’”
 Kumho Tire Co. v. Carmichael, 
526 U.S. 137, 149
 (1999)
 (alteration in original) (internal citation omitted) (quoting
 Daubert, 
509 U.S. at 592
).
     In 2000, Rule 702 was amended in response to Daubert
 and its progeny to clearly codify the trial court’s gatekeeping role. FED. R. EVID. 702 advisory committee’s note to
 2000 amendment. The 2000 amendment added the three
 reliability-based requirements for admissibility of expert
 testimony: it must be based on sufficient facts or data, it
 must be the product of reliable principles and methods, and
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 those principles and methods must be reliably applied. 
Id.
 These changes “affirm[ed] the trial court’s role as gatekeeper and provide[d] some general standards that the
 trial court must use to assess the reliability and helpfulness of proffered expert testimony.” 
Id.
 In 2023, Rule 702
 was amended to clarify that the proponent of expert testimony bears the burden of establishing its admissibility and
 to emphasize that an expert’s opinion must stay within the
 bounds of a reliable application of the expert’s basis and
 methodology. 8 FED. R. EVID. 702 advisory committee’s note




     8    The 2023 amendment did not substantively change
 the relevant standard. FED. R. EVID. 702 advisory committee’s note to 2023 amendment (“Nothing in the amendment
 imposes any new, specific procedures. Rather, the amendment is simply intended to clarify that Rule 104(a)’s requirement applies to expert opinions under Rule 702.”).
 Rule 702 as amended in 2023 states:
     A witness who is qualified as an expert by
     knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education
     may testify in the form of an opinion or otherwise
     if the proponent demonstrates to the court that it
     is more likely than not that:
     (a) the expert’s scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will help the trier of fact to
         understand the evidence or to determine a fact
         in issue;
     (b) the testimony is based on sufficient facts or
         data;
     (c) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods; and
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 to 2023 amendment. The Advisory Committee noted that
 “many courts have held that the critical questions of the
 sufficiency of an expert’s basis, and the application of the
 expert’s methodology, are questions of weight and not admissibility. These rulings are an incorrect application of
 Rules 702 and 104(a).” 
Id.
 The Advisory Committee explained that “[j]udicial gatekeeping is essential” to ensure
 an expert’s conclusions do not “go beyond what the expert’s
 basis and methodology may reliably support.” 
Id.
     Determinations of admissibility, which fall within the
 gatekeeping role of the court, are separate from determinations of weight and credibility, which are within the province of the jury in a jury case. FED. R. EVID. 104(a) (“The
 court must decide any preliminary question about whether
 a witness is qualified, a privilege exists, or evidence is admissible.”); Inwood Lab’ys, Inc. v. Ives Lab’ys, Inc., 
456 U.S. 844, 856
 (1982) (“Determining the weight and credibility of
 the evidence is the special province of the trier of fact.”).
 “[T]he question of whether the expert is credible or the
 opinion is correct is generally a question for the fact finder,
 not the court. Indeed, ‘[v]igorous cross-examination,
 presentation of contrary evidence, and careful instruction
 on the burden of proof are the traditional and appropriate
 means of attacking shaky but admissible evidence.’” Summit 6, LLC v. Samsung Elecs. Co., 
802 F.3d 1283, 1296
 (Fed. Cir. 2015) (second alteration in original) (internal citation omitted) (quoting Daubert, 
509 U.S. at 596
). While
 the credibility of an expert’s damages calculation is
 properly left to a jury, a determination of reliability under
 Rule 702 is an essential prerequisite.




     (d) the expert’s opinion reflects a reliable application of the principles and methods to the facts of
         the case.
 FED. R. EVID. 702 (2023).
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      Distinguishing “the gatekeeping role of the judge” under Rule 702 from the fact finder’s role “is particularly essential in the context of patent damages.” Apple Inc. v.
  Motorola, Inc., 
757 F.3d 1286, 1315
 (Fed. Cir. 2014), overruled on other grounds by Williamson v. Citrix Online,
  LLC, 
792 F.3d 1339
 (Fed. Cir. 2015) (en banc in part). Estimation of a reasonable royalty by its nature “necessarily
  involves an element of approximation and uncertainty.”
  Unisplay, S.A. v. Am. Elec. Sign Co., 
69 F.3d 512, 517
 (Fed.
  Cir. 1995); see also VLSI Tech. LLC v. Intel Corp., 
87 F.4th 1332, 1346
 (Fed. Cir. 2023) (“[S]ome steps in a sound [hypothetical negotiation] analysis may involve unavoidable
  ‘approximation and uncertainty.’” (quoting Lucent Techs.,
  Inc. v. Gateway, Inc., 
580 F.3d 1301, 1325
 (Fed. Cir. 2009))).
  Indeed, “the record may support a range of ‘reasonable’ royalties, rather than a single value,” and “there may be more
  than one reliable method for estimating a reasonable royalty.” Apple, 
757 F.3d at 1315
. It follows that damages
  experts may properly give testimony resulting in contradictory reasonable royalty amounts based on the same set of
  facts. See FED. R. EVID. 702 advisory committee’s note to
  2000 amendment (“[Rule 702] is broad enough to permit
  testimony that is the product of competing principles or
  methods in the same field of expertise.”). Expert testimony
  is particularly beneficial to assist the trier of fact in resolving such complex, technical issues as patent damages. See
  
35 U.S.C. § 284
 (acknowledging expert testimony is an appropriate “aid to the determination of damages or of what
  royalty would be reasonable under the circumstances”).
      To estimate a reasonable royalty in this case, Mr. Kennedy’s damages opinion employed the hypothetical negotiation or “willing licensor-willing licensee” framework,
  which “attempts to ascertain the royalty upon which the
  parties would have agreed had they successfully negotiated
  an agreement just before infringement began.” Lucent
  Techs., 
580 F.3d at 1324
 (citing Georgia-Pacific Corp. v.
  U.S. Plywood Corp., 
318 F. Supp. 1116, 1120
 (S.D.N.Y.
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  1970)). As a general matter, this is a sound approach, well
  supported in our precedent. See, e.g., VLSI, 87 F.4th at
  1345–46; Carnegie Mellon Univ. v. Marvell Tech. Grp.,
  Ltd., 
807 F.3d 1283
, 1303–04 (Fed. Cir. 2015); Lucent
  Techs., 580 F.3d at 1324–25. A critical consideration in this
  analysis is the amount that the alleged infringer would
  agree to pay as a willing licensee. Georgia-Pacific, 
318 F. Supp. at 1121
; Carnegie Mellon, 
807 F.3d at 1304
 (“A key
  inquiry in the analysis is what it would have been worth to
  the defendant, as it saw things at the time, to obtain the
  authority to use the patented technology . . . .”). One important factor is “[t]he royalties received by the patentee
  for the licensing of the patent in suit, proving or tending to
  prove an established royalty.” Georgia-Pacific, 
318 F. Supp. at 1120
. “Actual licenses to the patented technology
  are highly probative as to what constitutes a reasonable
  royalty for those patent rights because such actual licenses
  most clearly reflect the economic value of the patented
  technology in the marketplace.” LaserDynamics, Inc. v.
  Quanta Comput., Inc., 
694 F.3d 51, 79
 (Fed. Cir. 2012).
      “Actual licenses to the patents-in-suit are probative not
  only of the proper amount of a reasonable royalty, but also
  of the proper form of the royalty structure.” 
Id.
 at 79–80.
  A lump-sum license analysis involves significantly different considerations, from the perspective of both the licensee and the licensor, compared to a running royalty license.
  Lucent Techs., 580 F.3d at 1326–27. Because of these “fundamental differences,” “[f]or a jury to use a running-royalty
  agreement as a basis to award lump-sum damages” and
  vice versa, “some basis for comparison must exist in the evidence presented to the jury.” Id. at 1330; see also
  Whitserve, LLC v. Comput. Packages, Inc., 
694 F.3d 10, 30
  (Fed. Cir. 2012).
      As part of his analysis, Mr. Kennedy considered lump-sum settlement licenses between EcoFactor and three licensees: Daikin Industries, Ltd. (Daikin); Schneider Electric USA, Inc. (Schneider); and Johnson Controls Inc.
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  (Johnson). J.A. 5763–73. Mr. Kennedy testified that the
  Daikin, Schneider, and Johnson lump-sum amounts reflected an $X per unit rate applied to their sales. See
  J.A. 5778 at 642:14–15 (Kennedy testimony estimating a
  reasonable royalty based in part on “[$X] per unit that
  other people have paid”); J.A. 5740 at 604:1–2 (Kennedy
  testimony referencing “the EcoFactor licenses with ‘other
  competitors at the rate of $[X] per unit’”). Mr. Kennedy did
  not merely assume, without himself endorsing, the premise
  that the licenses reflected such a rate; he put forth his own
  opinion that they do so, asserting the proposition with the
  imprimatur of his expertise. See J.A. 5759 at 623:13–14
  (“that’s really my area as a licensing expert to say”).
  Mr. Kennedy concluded, “Google should pay the same rate
  as comparable licenses.” J.A. 5779 at 643:15–16; see also
  J.A. 5780 at 644:15–16 (“[T]hey would agree to $[X] per
  unit.”). We hold the existing licenses upon which Mr. Kennedy relied were insufficient, individually or in combination, to support his conclusion that prior licensees agreed
  to the $X royalty rate and therefore the district court
  abused its discretion in failing to exclude this testimony.
          A. Daikin, Schneider, and Johnson Licenses
      Contract interpretation—including whether the contract is ambiguous—is a question of law, which we answer
  de novo. McLane Foodservice, Inc. v. Table Rock Rests.,
  L.L.C., 
736 F.3d 375, 377
 (5th Cir. 2013). We do not find
  the contracts ambiguous. The plain language of the licenses does not provide a basis for Mr. Kennedy to opine
  that the parties agreed to an $X per unit rate in agreeing
  to the lump-sum payment amounts. We examine each license in turn.
     The Daikin license contains a preliminary recital,
  which states,
       WHEREAS, Ecofactor represents that it has agreed
       to the payment set forth in this Agreement based
       on what Ecofactor believes is a reasonable royalty
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      calculation of $[X] per-unit for estimated past and
      Daikin’s projected future sales of products accused
      of infringement in the Litigation.
  J.A. 10389 (emphasis added). The $X royalty rate does not
  appear anywhere else in the license. The Daikin license
  goes on to state in its operative payment provision that
      [s]uch [a lump-sum] amount is not based upon
      sales and does not reflect or constitute a royalty.
  J.A. 10391. The license itself therefore directly contradicts
  any claim that the lump sum is based upon any particular
  royalty rate or even that it is based upon sales volume.
  While the Daikin license could be relied upon as evidence
  of the royalty rate sought by EcoFactor as the willing licensor, it provides no support for the conclusion that Daikin
  agreed to pay the $X rate or agreed that $X rate was a reasonable royalty.
      The Schneider license also contains a preliminary recital, which states,
      WHEREAS Ecofactor represents that it has agreed
      to the payment set forth in this Agreement based
      on what Ecofactor believes is a reasonable royalty
      calculation of $[X] per-unit for what it has estimated is past and projected future sales of products
      accused of infringement in the Litigation, although
      nothing in this clause should be interpreted as
      agreement by Schneider that $[X] per unit is a reasonable royalty.
  J.A. 10400 (emphasis added). The $X rate does not appear
  anywhere else in the license. The “whereas” recital of the
  Schneider license indicates that EcoFactor believes $X is a
  reasonable royalty, but it makes equally clear that Schneider did not agree that $X per unit is a reasonable royalty.
  Judge Stark’s partial dissent suggests this whereas clause
  “could show that Schneider agreed with EcoFactor to use
  the $X rate to calculate the lump-sum it paid, and disputed
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  only whether that agreed-upon $X rate was reasonable.”
  Stark Dissent at 5 (emphasis in original). The license itself
  expressly rejects this inference when it further states in its
  operative payment provision that
       [s]uch [a lump-sum] amount is not based upon
       sales and does not reflect or constitute a royalty.
  J.A. 10402. To the extent Mr. Kennedy read this unambiguous license and opined that it reflected Schneider’s agreement to the $X royalty rate, there are not sufficient facts or
  data to support this opinion. See J.A. 5769 at 633:16–18
  (“There is a statement there about the $[X], both from EcoFactor and Schneider, in that ‘whereas’ clause. And it’s per
  unit.”). The Schneider license does not support Mr. Kennedy’s testimony that Schneider agreed to pay the $X rate
  or agreed that $X was a reasonable royalty. There are no
  facts in dispute; both of these premises are rejected in the
  express language of the license. Mr. Kennedy could have
  relied upon the Schneider license as evidence of the amount
  EcoFactor would agree to as the willing licensor, but the
  license cannot be read to support Mr. Kennedy’s testimony
  that Schneider was agreeing to pay the $X royalty.
      The Johnson license contains substantially the same
  preliminary recital as the Daikin license:
       WHEREAS, EcoFactor represents that it has
       agreed to the payment set forth in this Agreement
       based on what EcoFactor believes is a reasonable
       royalty calculation of $[X] per-unit for estimated
       past and Johnson Control’s projected future sales
       of products accused of infringement in the Litigation.
  J.A. 10411 (emphasis added). The $X royalty rate does not
  appear anywhere else in the Johnson license. Similar to
  the Daikin and Schneider licenses, the “whereas” recital of
  the Johnson license indicates EcoFactor’s representation of
  its unilateral belief that $X constitutes a reasonable
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  royalty and does not provide a basis for Mr. Kennedy to testify that Johnson agreed to the $X rate. 9
      The plain language of the license agreements does not
  support Mr. Kennedy’s testimony that Daikin, Schneider,
  and Johnson agreed to pay the $X per unit royalty rate. In
  fact, the Daikin and Schneider licenses expressly disavow
  it. The “whereas” recital of each license provides no indication that the licensees agreed to pay the $X rate or
  shared EcoFactor’s belief that $X constituted a reasonable
  royalty. The licenses therefore do not, individually or in
  combination, provide support for Mr. Kennedy’s testimony
  that the licensees agreed to pay the $X rate or that the licensees agreed that $X was a reasonable royalty. This
  analysis does not usurp the province of the jury, nor does it
  involve this court deciding disputes of fact. It involves the
  gatekeeping function of the court to ensure that there are
  sufficient facts or data for Mr. Kennedy’s testimony that
  the licensees agreed to the $X royalty rate.




      9   Moreover, unlike the disputes settled by the Daikin
  and Schneider licenses, the litigation settled by the Johnson license did not involve assertion of the ’327 patent.
  Compare J.A. 10411 (Johnson), with J.A. 10398 (Daikin)
  and J.A. 10409 (Schneider). While all three licenses are for
  EcoFactor’s entire patent portfolio, Mr. Kennedy opined
  that the value of a settlement license is almost entirely attributable to the asserted patents. J.A. 5767–68 at 631:21–
  632:1 (“These license agreements are for the portfolio . . . .
  But in the real world, what the focus is is on the asserted
  patents. And then when the agreement is done, there’s –
  the rest of the patents are thrown in usually either for
  nothing or very little additional value.”). According to
  Mr. Kennedy’s methodology, this would attribute no “or
  very little” value to the ’327 patent in arriving at the $X
  rate purportedly applied in the Johnson license.
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       To be sure, the licenses are relevant to a reasonable
  royalty analysis. The “whereas” recital in each license
  states EcoFactor’s belief that $X is a reasonable royalty for
  its patent portfolio, J.A. 10389; J.A. 10400; J.A. 10411, and
  could therefore be relied upon as an indication of the
  amount that EcoFactor would have accepted as a willing
  licensor. Georgia-Pacific, 
318 F. Supp. at 1121
 (reasonable
  royalty analysis “requires consideration not only of the
  amount that a willing licensee would have paid for the patent license but also of the amount that a willing licensor
  would have accepted”). Mr. Kennedy, however, opined that
  the unilateral assertion in each license’s “whereas” recital
  evidenced the licensees’ agreement to pay the $X royalty
  rate. J.A. 5778 at 642:13–15 (“One of the key [Georgia-Pacific factors] is the . . . $[X] per unit that other people have
  paid.”); J.A. 5779 at 643:15–16 (“Google should pay the
  same rate as comparable license[e]s”). This assertion by
  Mr. Kennedy—that prior willing licensees had agreed to
  the $X royalty rate—is not supported by the licenses. The
  licenses, individually or in combination, do not support
  Mr. Kennedy’s opinion that the licensees were paying the
  $X rate, agreed to pay the $X rate, or agreed that the $X
  rate was a reasonable royalty.
              B. Testimony from EcoFactor’s CEO
      Apart from the licenses themselves, the only evidence
  upon which Mr. Kennedy relied was the testimony of EcoFactor’s CEO, Shayan Habib. See, e.g., J.A. 5739–40 at
  603:25–604:2; J.A. 5794 at 658:17–18 (“Well, I have the testimony of Mr. Habib about how [the lump-sum license payment] was calculated, but I don’t have any
  documentation.”); J.A. 5804–06 at 668:6–670:20; J.A. 5811
  at 675:22–24 (“Q. And apart from what Mr. Habib has told
  you, you don’t have any other information showing how
  $[X] was arrived at? A. That’s correct.”). Mr. Habib’s testimony does not provide a sufficient basis for Mr. Kennedy’s testimony that Daikin, Schneider, and Johnson
  agreed to pay a royalty of $X per unit.
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       Mr. Habib testified that the lump-sum payments for
  each of the three licenses was calculated by multiplying the
  licensee’s past and future projected sales by the $X per unit
  rate. See J.A. 5667 at 531:19–23 (Habib testimony on Daikin license); J.A. 5668–69 at 532:23–533:2 (Habib testimony on Schneider license); J.A. 5669–70 at 533:25–534:3
  (Habib testimony on Johnson license). Mr. Habib’s claim
  regarding calculation of the lump-sum amounts is not supported by any record evidence. When asked about the basis
  for his understanding of the lump-sum calculations,
  Mr. Habib testified that neither he nor anyone else at EcoFactor had been given access to sales data for Daikin,
  Schneider, or Johnson. J.A. 5691 at 555:13–20; J.A. 5695
  at 559:6–13; J.A. 5697–98 at 561:21–562:4. Nor did
  Mr. Habib reference data from which any market predictions were made regarding past or projected sales for any
  of the licensees. Mr. Kennedy similarly testified that he
  had not seen any licensee sales data or documentation regarding calculation of the lump-sum license payments, but
  that he relied on Mr. Habib’s testimony that the calculations were based on the $X per unit rate. J.A. 5794 at
  658:8–25; J.A. 5797 at 661:15–24; J.A. 5804 at 668:6–25.
  Mr. Habib stated that the origin of the $X per unit rate was
  his “general understanding” of the relevant industry.
  J.A. 5670 at 534:19–25. He then testified, with no evidentiary support and contrary to the language of the licenses
  themselves, that the three companies all agreed to an $X
  per unit royalty rate. J.A. 5671 at 535:5–11 (“Q. Did the
  fact that these three companies all agreed to a $[X] per-unit royalty rate help with your understanding of what is
  or is not reasonable? A. Yes. It did. So, you know, if three
  companies were willing to accept it, then yeah. That further made it clear to me that it was a reasonable royalty
  rate that was being accepted by counterparties.”).
      Mr. Habib’s testimony amounts to an unsupported assertion on behalf of EcoFactor that the $X rate was applied
  to calculate the lump-sum payment amounts. Mr. Habib
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  testified that neither he nor anyone at EcoFactor had
  knowledge about the sales figures which would be needed
  to convert the $X royalty rate into the lump-sum payment
  amounts. See J.A. 5691 at 555:12–20; J.A. 5695 at 559:6–
  13; J.A. 5697–98 at 561:21–562:4. His testimony referenced no evidentiary support. It did not include actual,
  projected, or even estimated sales figures. He relied entirely on his asserted “general understanding of the space,”
  J.A. 5670 at 534:22–23, without ever explaining how a general understanding informed him as to the missing sales
  data. In the absence of any evidence, Mr. Habib’s testimony amounts to an unsupported assertion from an interested party. His testimony cannot provide a sufficient
  factual basis for Mr. Kennedy to provide a reliable opinion
  that the licensees agreed to pay the $X rate.
      Finally, the dissents suggest that the $X royalty rate is
  supported by “[Mr. Habib’s] belief – developed with input
  from non-attorney advisors, who (unlike him) had access to
  his competitors’ confidential sales data and projections –
  that the lump-sum amounts were calculated based on an
  $X rate.” Stark Dissent at 5; see also Reyna Dissent at 3–
  4. This is inaccurate. During the pretrial conference about
  Google’s Daubert motion to exclude Mr. Kennedy’s testimony, Google explained there is no record evidence that
  any advisors had access to licensees’ sales data, no evidence
  of calculations based upon sales data, and no reference to
  any of this in Mr. Kennedy’s report. S.A. 265–66 at 68:4–
  69:14. The district court ruled that Mr. Kennedy could not
  rely upon a claim that his opinion was based upon anyone
  having access to sales data. S.A. 266 at 69:15 (“Then he’s
  not going to get to say it.”); see also S.A. 1109 at 10:8–11
  (“THE COURT: So what I’m hearing is that – that the only
  thing that your expert is going to rely on is these settlement
  agreements; is that fair? MR. AICHELE: For the royalty
  calculation, yes.”); S.A. 1110–11 at 11:20–12:4 (district
  court holding that with regard to sales data allegedly provided to advisors: “anything that the Plaintiff’s expert
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  intends at trial to say he relied on needs to be in your hands
  by the end of this week”). At trial, when Mr. Habib similarly tried to claim that a lump-sum amount was calculated
  using confidential financial information that was shared
  with counsel, this testimony was objected to and
  Mr. Habib’s answer was stricken—a ruling not appealed.
  J.A. 5670 at 534:4–15. There is no record evidence that
  Mr. Habib or Mr. Kennedy relied upon advisors who had
  access to licensees’ actual or projected sales data. Judge
  Stark’s partial dissent states that this created a factual dispute for the jury to resolve. Stark Dissent at 4–8. Respectfully, there was no factual issue; it is not the province of
  the jury to credit testimony which was expressly excluded
  from trial.
                 C. Additional Record Evidence
      EcoFactor points to additional evidence in the record,
  not referenced by Mr. Kennedy, which EcoFactor argues
  supports Mr. Kennedy’s opinion regarding the $X royalty
  rate. Appellee Br. 21–22. This additional evidence is not
  relevant to the inquiry at hand. 10 When evaluating the


      10  Judge Reyna’s partial dissent suggests that market
  share data could have permitted a calculation that the
  lump sums were based on an $X rate. Reyna Dissent at 4–
  5. Mr. Kennedy did not rely upon any market share data
  to calculate the $X royalty rate that he says the three licensees agreed to pay. J.A. 5797 at 661:15–24; J.A. 5805–
  06 at 669:19–670:1 (“Q. Beyond what . . . the ‘whereas’
  clause states in that agreement and what Mr. Habib told
  you, you didn’t do anything else to confirm that the lump
  sum paid by Johnson Controls was derived by applying the
  rate of [$X] to its past and projected product sales? A.
  Yeah. I’d say those two things, both parties signing the
  agreement and my experience, are – that, I believe, is – encompasses what I did.”). Mr. Kennedy used the market
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  sufficiency of an expert’s factual basis for the propositions
  asserted as the expert’s opinion, a court examines the evidence on which the expert purports to rely. Rule 702 requires the expert’s relied-upon facts or data—not the
  record as a whole—to constitute a sufficient basis for the
  expert’s testimony. FED. R. EVID. 702(b) (requiring expert
  testimony to be “based on sufficient facts or data” (emphasis added)).
      EcoFactor argues additional record evidence supports
  a finding that at least the Johnson license applied the $X
  royalty rate, which renders Mr. Kennedy’s testimony admissible. Not so, even apart from the fact that Mr. Kennedy did not rely on such evidence. Mr. Kennedy relied on
  the three licenses as collectively proving an established
  royalty rate. J.A. 5778–79 at 642:9–643:18 (Kennedy testimony referencing the $X rate “that other people have
  paid” and asserting “Google should pay the same rate as
  comparable licenses”); see also J.A. 5762–73 at 626:25–
  637:25 (Kennedy testimony referencing the Daikin, Schneider, and Johnson licenses in his analysis of Georgia-Pacific
  factor 1). Mr. Kennedy did not suggest that any single license was indicative of an established rate for the patented
  technology.
         D. Conclusion on Mr. Kennedy’s Testimony
       For the foregoing reasons, a fundamental premise of
  Mr. Kennedy’s testimony—that Daikin, Schneider, and
  Johnson agreed to pay the $X rate—was not based on sufficient facts or data, as required by Rule 702(b). Mr. Kennedy’s reliance on the unilateral “whereas” recital of each
  license as representing the licensees’ agreement to the $X
  rate was untethered from the licenses and unsupported by
  the evidence on which Mr. Kennedy relied. Gen. Elec. Co.



  share data only as a check on the lump sum amounts. E.g.,
  J.A. 5804 at 668:6–16.
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  v. Joiner, 
522 U.S. 136, 146
 (1997) (“[N]othing in either
  Daubert or the Federal Rules of Evidence requires a district court to admit opinion evidence that is connected to
  existing data only by the ipse dixit of the expert.”). “Rule
  702 sets forth the overarching requirement of reliability,
  and an analysis of the sufficiency of the expert’s basis cannot be divorced from the ultimate reliability of the expert’s
  opinion.” FED. R. EVID. 702 advisory committee’s note to
  2000 amendment. This deficiency renders Mr. Kennedy’s
  testimony unreliable and therefore inadmissible under
  Rule 702.
      This is not a case where the relevant evidence can reasonably support competing conclusions. Whether prior licensees agreed to pay the $X rate was not the subject of
  estimation or approximation in Mr. Kennedy’s reasonable
  royalty analysis. In other words, this is not an issue involving unavoidable imprecision on which Mr. Kennedy’s
  expertise was brought to bear. To the contrary, this was a
  concrete factual premise of Mr. Kennedy’s testimony,
  which he asserted to be true based on the licenses and the
  testimony of Mr. Habib. There can be no doubt that this
  evidence fails to provide “good grounds” for Mr. Kennedy’s
  testimony regarding the licensees’ agreement to pay $X per
  unit. See Daubert, 
509 U.S. at 590
. Nor did Mr. Kennedy
  have access to evidence of relevant sales figures to verify
  whether the lump sums corresponded to a particular unitbased rate. Without this fundamental premise, Mr. Kennedy’s testimony unravels. Where, as here, the relevant
  evidence is contrary to a critical fact upon which the expert
  relied, the district court fails to fulfill its responsibility as
  gatekeeper by allowing the expert to testify at trial.
      The district court’s decision to admit Mr. Kennedy’s
  unreliable testimony was undoubtedly prejudicial. The $X
  rate was crucial to Mr. Kennedy’s damages analysis; he
  opined that it would be both the starting point and the outcome of a hypothetical negotiation between EcoFactor and
  Google. J.A. 5778 at 642:13–15 (“One of the key [Georgia-
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  Pacific factors] is the . . . $[X] per unit that other people
  have paid.”); J.A. 5779 at 643:15–18 (“Google should pay
  the same rate as comparable licenses . . . . I think that
  would be a very reasonable and conservative first offer.”);
  J.A. 5780 at 644:13–16 (“So this is the final outcome. I believe after weighing all the positives and negatives, some
  quantitative and some qualitative, it would – they would
  agree to $[X] per unit.”).
      On this record, we cannot be sure “that the error did
  not influence the jury or had but a very slight effect on its
  verdict.” Carlson v. Bioremedi Therapeutic Sys., Inc., 
822 F.3d 194, 202
 (5th Cir. 2016) (quoting Kelly v. Boeing Petroleum Servs., Inc., 
61 F.3d 350, 361
 (5th Cir. 1995)). EcoFactor and Judge Reyna’s partial dissent suggest that
  there was other evidence that supported the jury verdict.
  Appellee Br. 8; Reyna Dissent at 13–14. A harmless or
  prejudicial error analysis, however, is not a sufficiency of
  the evidence analysis. On this record, we cannot be sure
  that the admission of Mr. Kennedy’s testimony did not influence the jury’s damages award. The evidence relied
  upon by Mr. Kennedy does not provide a sufficient basis for
  his testimony that the lump-sum settlement licenses were
  based on a royalty rate of $X per unit. The district court
  therefore abused its discretion by denying Google’s motion
  to exclude Mr. Kennedy’s testimony. In light of this prejudicial error, the district court abused its discretion by denying Google’s motion for a new trial on damages. We reverse
  the district court’s denial of Google’s motion for a new trial
  and remand for a new trial on damages.
                     II.    Proper En Banc
       EcoFactor challenges the nature of this en banc proceeding. Because the en banc panel consists of fewer than
  all judges in regular active service, as required by 
28 U.S.C. § 46
(c), EcoFactor argues this en banc court is statutorily
  improper and cannot alter the decision of the three-judge
  panel. We do not agree.
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      The Judicial Conduct and Disability Act, which gives
  the Judicial Council of each circuit authority to temporarily
  remove judges from hearing “further cases,” 
28 U.S.C. § 354
(a)(2)(A), was enacted after 
28 U.S.C. § 46
(c). Judicial
  Conduct and Disability Act of 1980, 
Pub. L. No. 96-458, 94
  Stat. 2035 (1980) (codified at 28 U.S.C. §§ 351–64); 
62 Stat. 871
 (1948) (codified at 
28 U.S.C. § 46
(c)). Congress did not
  limit the remedy of temporary suspension to apply only to
  panel cases. “[F]urther cases” therefore includes cases
  heard en banc pursuant to 
28 U.S.C. § 46
(c). See Cannon
  v. Univ. of Chi., 
441 U.S. 677
, 696–98 (1979) (Congress is
  presumed to legislate with knowledge of the law, and a
  newly-enacted statute is presumed to be harmonious with
  existing law and judicial concepts).
      Indeed, there are strong reasons why Congress authorized such a remedy to include en banc cases. En banc rehearing is not ordinarily undertaken unless “necessary to
  secure or maintain uniformity of the court’s decisions” or
  “the proceeding involves one or more questions of exceptional importance.” FED. R. APP. P. 40(b). Misconduct of
  various forms as well as “mental or physical disability” are
  among the grounds for invocation of the Judicial Conduct
  and Disability Act. 
28 U.S.C. § 351
(a). It would be anomalous to find that Congress allowed a Judicial Council to
  suspend judges from hearing cases, but excepted from that
  suspension only those cases of exceptional importance. We
  do not find such an anomaly in the statutes.
                         CONCLUSION
       We have considered the parties’ remaining arguments
  and find them unpersuasive. For the foregoing reasons, we
  reverse the district court’s denial of Google’s motion for a
  new trial on damages. We reinstate the portions of the
  panel opinion that pertain to issues other than damages, in
  which the panel rejected Google’s attempt to appeal the district court’s denial of summary judgment and affirmed the
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  district court’s denial of Google’s motion for JMOL of noninfringement.
   AFFIRMED-IN-PART, REVERSED-IN-PART, AND
                 REMANDED
                            COSTS
  No costs.
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    United States Court of Appeals
        for the Federal Circuit
                    ______________________

                     ECOFACTOR, INC.,
                      Plaintiff-Appellee

                                v.

                       GOOGLE LLC,
                     Defendant-Appellant
                    ______________________

                          2023-1101
                    ______________________

     Appeal from the United States District Court for the
  Western District of Texas in No. 6:20-cv-00075-ADA, Judge
  Alan D Albright.
                   ______________________

  REYNA, Circuit Judge, with whom STARK, Circuit Judge,
  joins, concurring in part and dissenting in part. 1
      From the outset, this appeal has been about whether
  the district court abused its discretion by admitting EcoFactor’s expert opinion on damages and denying Google’s
  motion for a new trial. On September 25, 2024, we issued
  an order that limited the parties’ briefing and argument to
  “the district court’s adherence to Federal Rule of Evidence 702 and Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals,


      1   I join the parts of the en banc court’s opinion (1) reinstating portions of the June 3, 2024 panel opinion and
  (2) holding that this en banc proceeding is proper.
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  Inc., 
509 U.S. 579
 (1993), in its allowance of testimony from
  EcoFactor’s damages expert assigning a per-unit royalty
  rate to the three licenses in evidence in this case.”
      But now, the en banc court abandons the scope of this
  proceeding that we officially set. The en banc court does
  speak to Rule 702 and Daubert, but only when reciting
  well-known law. The crux of its analysis focuses exclusively on its new theory that this case is about contract interpretation as a question of law.
      The en banc court’s sudden shift deprives EcoFactor of
  notice and an opportunity to be heard, and avoids what this
  appeal is really about, i.e., the extent to which district
  courts have discretion to decide fact-based questions of admissibility under Rule 702 and Daubert. And after only
  finding fault with a narrow point of Mr. Kennedy’s testimony on contract interpretation grounds, the en banc court
  appears to inexplicably rule that Mr. Kennedy’s entire testimony should have been excluded.
       Most extraordinarily, the en banc court’s new theory is
  not dispositive to the disposition of this case. Assuming
  that the en banc court’s conclusion on contract interpretation is correct, Fifth Circuit law requires us to affirm under
  the harmless error doctrine. The en banc court’s one conclusory paragraph on this issue states that Mr. Kennedy’s
  testimony “was undoubtedly prejudicial” without providing
  any explanation why it was an abuse of discretion for the
  district court to rule otherwise. This may prove to be the
  most consequential step the en banc court takes because,
  under its logic, even when improperly admitted evidence is
  wholly duplicative of properly admitted evidence, the district court has no discretion but to decide that the erroneous admission was per se prejudicial. This is not the
  correct standard under Fifth Circuit law for vacating a jury
  verdict.
      For the following reasons, I respectfully dissent. This
  dissent is divided into two parts. In the first part, I address
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  the admissibility of Mr. Kennedy’s expert opinion and the
  en banc court’s departure from the question at hand. In
  the second part, I address the en banc court’s failure to conduct any meaningful harmless error analysis.
                I. Admission of Expert Testimony
                                A
       The issue before the en banc court is whether the district court abused its discretion in ruling that Mr. Kennedy’s expert testimony is supported by sufficient facts or
  data under Federal Rule of Evidence 702. Mr. Kennedy offered his expert opinion on “the amount of patent damages
  in this case,” and ultimately concluded that Google LLC
  (“Google”) should pay damages based on a royalty rate of
  $X per unit. J.A. 5740 (604:3–17). Mr. Kennedy based his
  conclusion on the Georgia-Pacific factors, which the en
  banc court affirms is, as a general matter, “a sound approach, well supported in our precedent.” Maj. Op. 11.
      Mr. Kennedy’s testimony is supported by license agreements between EcoFactor, Inc. (“EcoFactor”) and Johnson
  Controls, Inc. (“Johnson”), Daikin Industries, Ltd. (“Daikin”), and Schneider Electric, USA (“Schneider”).
  J.A. 10389–399; J.A. 10400–410; J.A. 10411–419.        All
  three licenses are lump sum licenses, and each license includes a representation from EcoFactor that the lump sum
  amounts were calculated based on a reasonable royalty of
  $X per-unit. J.A. 10389; J.A. 10400; J.A. 10411.
      Mr. Kennedy’s testimony is further supported by testimony from EcoFactor’s Chief Executive Officer and signatory to all three licenses, Mr. Habib. Mr. Habib testified
  extensively about the $X rate, including the following exchange:
      Q. Could you explain to us where the $[X] per-unit
      royalty rate came from that we are seeing in each
      of these agreements?
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      A. Sure. So it comes from my general understanding of the space. I’ve been in the industry for seven
      years and I have an understanding of the market
      and what is reasonable for the technologies that we
      have. So that’s one of the inputs. The other is I have
      a very strong understanding of EcoFactor itself and
      our margins and what the value of the product itself is. And thirdly, it comes from consulting with
      advisors.
  J.A. 5670–71 (534:19–535:4). 2 Mr. Habib also testified that
  “[t]he $[X rate] is our baseline policy,” and that it was his
  understanding that Johnson, Daikin, and Schneider
  agreed to the $X rate. J.A. 5671 (535:5–11, 535:16);
  J.A. 5672 (536:17–18) (“So, firstly, my understanding was
  that all of it is based on $[X] per infringing unit.”).
      Mr. Kennedy’s testimony is also supported by undisputed market share data. First, Mr. Habib testified about
  Google’s sales compared to the sales of Johnson, Daikin,
  and Schneider, and he concluded that “as it relates to the
  smart thermostat business, they’re actually either quite
  new or very small in our space specifically.” J.A. 5666
  (530:8–19); J.A. 5672–73 (536:12–537:3). Google and its
  expert did not dispute any of this data. J.A. 6255–57
  (1119:5–1121:5).
      Second, Mr. Kennedy relied on Mr. Habib’s testimony,
  and Mr. Kennedy testified about the relative market
  shares of Google, Johnson, Daikin, and Schneider.
  J.A. 5746 (610:1–20), J.A. 10467. Google and its expert



      2    Regardless of whether Mr. Habib was permitted to
  testify about his advisors’ knowledge of the licensees’ confidential sales data, Maj. Op. 18–19, Mr. Habib’s testimony
  at J.A. 5670–71 (534:19–535:4) was properly before the
  jury without objection and thus can support Mr. Kennedy’s
  testimony.
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  again did not challenge this data or Mr. Kennedy’s testimony. J.A. 6257–58 (1121:6–1122:13).
      A natural conclusion that Mr. Kennedy and the jury
  could reasonably draw from this data is that if Google’s
  market share and thus sales are a given multiple of those
  of Johnson, Daikin, and Schneider, all else being equal,
  Google should pay a lump sum amount that is also the
  given multiple of what each licensee paid. Additionally,
  another natural conclusion reasonably drawn from the evidence of the undisputed market share of the three licensees is that the market share data provides an estimate of
  the licensees’ sales. Given the known lump sum amounts,
  a jury could determine whether the lump sum amount is
  based on the $X rate. Mr. Habib testified to this exact
  point, and again Mr. Kennedy relied on Mr. Habib’s following testimony:
      Q. So earlier you had mentioned that the three
      companies we’ve been discussing are fairly large.
      Did that help inform you as to whether the total
      sums that were paid in each of the agreements we
      looked at were reasonable?
      A. Yes. It did. So, firstly, my understanding was
      that all of it is based on $[X] per infringing unit.
      Secondly, I understood what these companies do.
      You know, they’re pretty large, but in our space,
      they’ve been relatively new or more recent. And
      there are high barriers to entry, as we’ve heard in
      previous testimony, in our space. . . . And so it
      makes sense that their sales number[s] would be
      low since they’d recently started.
  J.A. 5672 (536:12–24). This undisputed data further supports Mr. Kennedy’s testimony by serving as a reasonableness check on both the $X rate and his ultimate damages
  opinion.
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       In light of the record, the district court did not abuse
  its discretion in ruling that the three license agreements,
  Mr. Habib’s testimony, and undisputed market share data
  constitute sufficient facts or data under Rule 702. 3 Rule
  702 does not require that expert opinion be based on undisputed or dispositive facts or data. Rather, Rule 702 recognizes that there may be multiple versions of the facts and
  does not “authorize a trial court to exclude an expert’s testimony on the ground that the court believes one version of
  the facts and not the other.” FED. R. EVID. 702 advisory
  committee’s note to 2000 amendment; 
id.
 (“The evidentiary
  requirement of reliability is lower than the merits standard
  of correctness.” (citations omitted)). This is so because “the
  trial court’s role as gatekeeper is not intended to serve as a
  replacement for the adversary system.” United States v.
  14.38 Acres of Land Situated in Leflore Cnty., Miss., 
80 F.3d 1074, 1078
 (5th Cir. 1996). This is one reason why
  district courts have “broad discretion” in deciding admissibility, especially on fact-intensive questions such as this,
  and appellate courts should not find error “unless the ruling is manifestly erroneous.” Guy v. Crown Equip. Corp.,
  
394 F.3d 320, 325
 (5th Cir. 2004) (citations omitted); Roman v. W. Mfg., Inc., 
691 F.3d 686, 692
 (5th Cir. 2012)
  (“Wide latitude is granted to what the trial court decides.”).
  The en banc court does not establish that the district court
  committed manifest error. Given the facts of this case, the
  correct standard under Rule 702, and the broad discretion
  of district courts, the inquiry should end here.




      3   For many of the same reasons, the district court did
  not abuse its discretion in ruling that Mr. Kennedy’s testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods.
  The en banc court does not meaningfully discuss, let alone
  find fault with, Mr. Kennedy’s methodology.
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                               B
       But the inquiry does not end, because the en banc court
  opens a new theory within its Rule 702 analysis: contract
  interpretation. Maj. Op. 12–16 (“Contract interpretation—
  including whether the contract is ambiguous—is a question
  of law, which we answer de novo.”). This is not a case of
  contract interpretation. Neither party briefed or argued
  that any issue presented is one of contract interpretation
  subject to de novo review. This new theory is contrary to
  the scope of the en banc appeal. We limited the scope of
  the en banc proceeding to “the district court’s adherence to
  Federal Rule of Evidence 702 and Daubert [] in its allowance of testimony from EcoFactor’s damages expert assigning a per-unit royalty rate to the three licenses in evidence
  in this case.” EcoFactor, Inc. v. Google LLC, 
115 F.4th 1380
  (Fed. Cir. 2024) (“En Banc Order”). We did not order that
  the scope of the appeal focus on contract interpretation. If
  the en banc court determined, which it did not, that this
  appeal should address contract law, then it should have so
  ordered, and the parties and the twenty-one amici could
  have briefed matters of contract law. The en banc court’s
  sua sponte transformation of this case into one of contract
  interpretation and resolution of that issue in favor of
  Google raises party presentation concerns and deprives
  EcoFactor of notice and an opportunity to be heard. See,
  e.g., Astellas Pharma, Inc. v. Sandoz Inc., 
117 F.4th 1371
,
  1377–79 (Fed. Cir. 2024). 4



      4   Notably, even accepting the en banc court’s contract interpretation theory, the Johnson license does not
  contain any other clauses that are pertinent to the $X rate.
  The en banc court identifies no such language, and instead,
  only discards the Johnson license on apportionment
  grounds, which are not at issue in this proceeding. Maj.
  Op. 15 n.9; En Banc Order; ECF No. 165. Thus the
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       The en banc court’s conclusion that the three licenses
  at issue do not legally bind the contracting parties to the
  $X rate is of no moment. This is the wrong question to ask.
  It is undisputed that all three licenses legally bind the contracting parties to a lump sum amount, not a royalty rate.
  The right question to ask is whether, even though the three
  parties are not legally bound to the $X rate, there are sufficient facts or data to support Mr. Kennedy’s testimony that
  $X is a reasonable royalty rate. And as I previously laid
  out, there are sufficient facts.
                                C
      As an afterthought to its contract interpretation analysis, the en banc court mishandles or ignores evidence
  other than the terms of the three licenses that independently support Mr. Kennedy’s testimony. First, the en
  banc court impermissibly weighs the credibility of
  Mr. Habib’s testimony in an effort to diminish its effect.
  What the en banc court does not do, however, is explain
  how the district court’s presumably contrary view of
  Mr. Habib’s testimony amounts to an abuse of discretion.
  The en banc court reasons that Mr. Habib’s testimony is
  not supported by “any record evidence” and is nothing more
  than an “unsupported assertion.” Maj. Op. 17. This reasoning misunderstands the very purpose of a fact witness,
  whose basis for testifying is personal knowledge. FED. R.
  EVID. 602. Google did not object to Mr. Habib’s testimony
  as lacking personal knowledge, being speculative, or constituting hearsay, and thereby missed its opportunity to
  challenge Mr. Habib’s testimony via the proper avenue for
  these concerns. FED. R. EVID. 103.




  Johnson license unambiguously supports Mr. Kennedy’s
  opinion that EcoFactor and Johnson applied the $X rate to
  reach the lump sum amount.
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      The en banc court’s reasoning could perhaps apply had
  Mr. Habib testified as an expert himself, thereby requiring
  a sufficient evidentiary basis to support his testimony before a jury could assign his testimony any weight. But it is
  not the role of the en banc court to determine that
  Mr. Habib’s personal knowledge of the relevant industry
  and of EcoFactor’s finances and technology, as well as his
  consultations with advisors, are worthless and thus cannot
  be relied upon by Mr. Kennedy. Critically, as Google
  acknowledged, there is no record evidence that an expert
  in Mr. Kennedy’s field would not typically rely on fact witness testimony such as Mr. Habib’s. Oral Arg. 10:40–
  12:20. 5 The en banc court’s outright dismissal of Mr.
  Habib’s testimony lays bare that the en banc court has chosen to believe one version of the facts over the other. This
  is not the gatekeeping function prescribed to district court
  judges, let alone appellate judges reviewing under an
  abuse of discretion standard of review. FED. R. EVID. 702
  advisory committee’s note to 2000 amendment; 14.38 Acres
  of Land Situated in Leflore Cnty., Miss., 
80 F.3d at 1078
;
  XY, LLC v. Trans Ova Genetics, L.C., 
890 F.3d 1282, 1295
  (Fed. Cir. 2018) (“The jury holds the exclusive function of
  appraising credibility and determining the weight to be
  given to the testimony.” (cleaned up)).
      The en banc court also fails to address whether the undisputed market share data and Mr. Habib’s testimony
  about that data support Mr. Kennedy’s opinion. It is
  within the discretion of the district court to rule that the
  undisputed market share data supports Mr. Kennedy’s
  opinion in two ways: First, the total damages amount
  Mr. Kennedy opined that Google should pay was proportionate on a market share basis to the total amount Johnson, Daikin, and Schneider paid EcoFactor; and second, the



      5   Available at https://oralarguments.cafc.uscourts.
  gov/default.aspx?fl=23-1101_03132025.mp3.
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  undisputed market share data allowed Mr. Kennedy to determine whether the three lump sum amounts were based
  on the $X rate. Yet the en banc court never addresses these
  facts on which Mr. Kennedy based his expert opinion.
                                D
       Even accepting the en banc court’s ruling that the district court erred in admitting Mr. Kennedy’s testimony that
  Johnson, Daikin, and Schneider agreed to the $X rate, the
  en banc court errs in its apparent remedy: wholesale exclusion of Mr. Kennedy’s testimony. By exclusively focusing
  its analysis on whether Johnson, Daikin, and Schneider
  agreed to the $X rate, the en banc court only addresses and
  finds fault with Mr. Kennedy’s analysis under Georgia-Pacific factor one, “[t]he royalties received by the patentee for
  the licensing of the patent in suit.” Georgia-Pacific Corp.
  v. U.S. Plywood Corp., 
318 F. Supp. 1116, 1120
  (S.D.N.Y. 1970). This is effectively a subset of Mr. Kennedy’s testimony and analysis. The en banc court explicitly
  concedes that “the Daikin license could be relied upon as
  evidence of the royalty rate sought by EcoFactor as the
  willing licensor,” and that “Mr. Kennedy could have relied
  upon the Schneider license as evidence of the amount EcoFactor would agree to as the willing licensor.” 6 Maj.
  Op. 13–14. This is exactly what Mr. Kennedy did—he relied on the Johnson, Daikin, and Schneider licenses as evidence of Georgia-Pacific factors one, four, and fifteen,
  among others. So, even if the en banc court were correct
  that Mr. Kennedy’s testimony under Georgia-Pacific factor
  one is not supported by sufficient facts or data, the en banc
  court has provided no adequate rationale as to why it appears that its sole remedy is wholesale exclusion of
  Mr. Kennedy’s testimony.



       6 While the en banc court does not explicitly say as
  much, the same is true of the Johnson license.
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                II. Prejudicial or Harmful Error
      It is well-established under Fifth Circuit law that the
  party moving for a new trial bears the burden to show that
  any error in admission is prejudicial such that it affected
  substantial rights and, in view of the entire record, “influenced the jury or had more than a very slight effect on its
  verdict.” Harris v. FedEx Corp. Servs., Inc., 
92 F.4th 286
,
  303–04 (5th Cir. 2024) (cleaned up); Cruz v. Cervantez,
  
96 F.4th 806, 814
 (5th Cir. 2024). Additionally, the Fifth
  Circuit has previously recognized that a moving party does
  not carry its burden to show prejudicial or harmful error
  when erroneously admitted evidence is duplicative of
  properly admitted evidence. See, e.g., Williams v. Manitowoc Cranes, L.L.C., 
898 F.3d 607, 627
 (5th Cir. 2018).
      Here, Google makes no meaningful showing as to how
  Mr. Kennedy’s opinion that $X was a reasonable royalty
  rate affected its substantial rights. Nor can it.
      This is not a case where but for expert testimony, the
  $X rate would not have been before the jury and thus any
  erroneous admission skewed the jury’s perspective. The
  record shows that the precise testimony from Mr. Kennedy
  that the en banc court identifies as problematic and Google
  repeatedly identified as “powerful,” Oral Arg. 1:01:43–
  1:02:26, was also put to the jury, without objection, from
  Mr. Habib:
      Q. So could you tell me a little bit about the context
      of this agreement with Daikin?
      A. Absolutely. This is an agreement which is subject -- or post litigation. And it’s a settlement agreement where we agreed to a reasonable royalty
      calculation of $[X] per unit for estimated past and
      Daikin’s projected future sales of the accused products. . . .
      Q. Can you tell me how [the Schneider lump sum]
      was derived?
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       A. Again, my understanding of this number is that
       this was based off of taking the $[X] of our base royalty rate and multiplying it by the past and future
       projected sales for Schneider. And we arrived at
       this [lump sum] number. . . .
       Q. Can you tell me how [the Johnson lump sum]
       was derived?
       A. Again, very similar to the other two agreements.
       It was $[X] multiplied by their past and future projected sales. And by doing that, we arrived at this
       [lump sum] number. . . .
       Q. Did the fact that these three companies all
       agreed to a $[X] per-unit royalty rate help with your
       understanding of what is or is not reasonable?
       A. Yes. It did. So, you know, if three companies were
       willing to accept it, then yeah. That further made it
       clear to me that it was a reasonable royalty rate that
       was being accepted by counterparties. . . .
  J.A. 5667–71 (531:6–12, 532:23–533:2, 533:25–534:3,
  535:5–11) (emphasis added). The remainder of Mr. Habib’s
  testimony about the $X rate and the parties’ relative market share was also properly before the jury. As were all
  three licenses that recite the $X rate, which were introduced during Mr. Habib’s testimony. J.A. 5666–5669
  (530:20–533:12). Although Google attempted in a pretrial
  motion in limine to prevent EcoFactor from introducing the
  unredacted licenses, it concedes that the unredacted license agreements and the $X rate can once again come into
  evidence. Oral Arg. 7:55–8:00, 8:45–9:15. As will the testimony of Mr. Habib, to which Google never objected.
      The record also shows that the jury received evidence
  that EcoFactor and at least one licensee, Johnson, agreed
  to the $X rate. The following email exchange between EcoFactor and Johnson during the time they negotiated the
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  Johnson license indicates that Johnson accepted the $X
  rate:
      2. [Johnson:] By characterizing these as “rates,”
      may we assume that they apply to all licensees? Or,
      have others paid less than the rates? Obviously,
      JCI wouldn’t want to do a deal that would place it
      at a competitive disadvantage relative to other licensees. [EcoFactor:] CORRECT, THESE APPLY
      TO EVERYONE
      3. [Johnson:] We are applying the rates to the time
      period that EcoFactor has said is implicated in the
      investigation . . . .
  J.A. 10797–99 (emphasis added). 7
      Even without Mr. Kennedy’s repetitive testimony, the
  jury was inundated with evidence of the $X rate. And,
  while EcoFactor sought damages based on the $X rate, the
  jury returned a verdict that appears to be based on a much
  smaller royalty rate. It was therefore Google’s burden to
  show that even though the jury discounted the $X rate and
  the vast majority of EcoFactor’s evidence about the $X rate
  was rightfully before the jury from sources other than


      7    The en banc court wrongly dismisses “additional
  evidence in the record,” without identifying or discussing
  that evidence, on the sole basis that Mr. Kennedy did not
  reference that evidence. Maj. Op. 19. While that may be
  relevant for purposes of reviewing the district court’s pretrial decision on admissibility, we are reviewing Google’s
  motion for a new trial and thus as Google conceded, the entire trial record may be considered. Oral Arg. 19:52–20:51;
  Foradori v. Harris, 
523 F.3d 477, 506
 (5th Cir. 2008) (citation omitted). Thus any prejudicial error analysis must address other record evidence, including EcoFactor’s
  negotiation correspondence with Johnson. We err if we fail
  to consider all relevant record evidence.
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  Mr. Kennedy, the admission of Mr. Kennedy’s testimony
  affected Google’s substantial rights. Jordan v. Maxfield &
  Oberton Holdings, L.L.C., 
977 F.3d 412, 417
  (5th Cir. 2020); Koch v. United States, 
857 F.3d 267, 277
  (5th Cir. 2017). In similar scenarios, the Fifth Circuit has
  ruled that any such error is harmless. See, e.g., Williams,
  
898 F.3d at 627
 (“So any error regarding the admission of
  the [disputed evidence] was harmless: The similar [undisputed evidence] provided the jury sufficient evidence to
  find [the defendant] liable.”); Cruz, 96 F.4th at 814–16
  (finding harmless error because the disputed evidence “is
  materially duplicative of [the undisputed evidence], such
  that admitting it would have added very little” and “ample
  evidence supported the jury’s conclusion”); Harris, 
92 F.4th at 304
 (“[Appellant] fails to show that [the erroneous admission of expert] testimony affected its substantial rights.
  Even without [the] testimony, [the appellee] presented sufficient evidence for a reasonable jury to find [for the appellee].”). In view of the record in this case, the district court
  did not abuse its discretion.
      The en banc court addresses none of this. Instead, the
  en banc court excuses Google for its failure to meet its well-established burden under Fifth Circuit law.
                            
      I believe the en banc court’s opinion confuses the questions at hand, at times it unjustifiably and improperly exceeds the scope of our appellate review of the district
  court’s gatekeeping role by choosing to “believe[] one version of the facts and not the other,” and fails to engage in
  any meaningful prejudicial or harmless error analysis. I
  respectfully dissent.
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    United States Court of Appeals
        for the Federal Circuit
                    ______________________

                     ECOFACTOR, INC.,
                      Plaintiff-Appellee

                               v.

                       GOOGLE LLC,
                     Defendant-Appellant
                    ______________________

                          2023-1101
                    ______________________

     Appeal from the United States District Court for the
  Western District of Texas in No. 6:20-cv-00075-ADA, Judge
  Alan D Albright.
                   ______________________

  STARK, Circuit Judge, with whom REYNA, Circuit Judge,
  joins, concurring in part and dissenting in part. 1
       As both the Majority and Judge Reyna observe, see Majority Opinion at 4-5; Reyna Dissent at 1-3, we granted en
  banc review to “address[] the district court’s adherence to
  Federal Rule of Evidence 702 and Daubert v. Merrell Dow
  Pharmaceuticals, Inc., 
509 U.S. 579
 (1993).” En Banc


      1   I join the parts of the Majority Opinion (i) reinstating the portion of the Panel Opinion, ECF No. 18, affirming
  the district court’s denial of Google’s motions for summary
  judgment and for judgment as matter of law, and (ii) holding that our proceeding is a “Proper En Banc.”
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  Order, ECF No. 76 at 2. Surprisingly, however, the Majority Opinion has very little to say about Rule 702 and Daubert. On these topics, I read the Majority’s holding as so
  narrow as to have almost no applicability beyond this case.
       Nevertheless, because this is our first en banc review
  of a utility patent case in years, I am concerned that today’s
  opinion will be misinterpreted as constraining damages experts in a manner not called for by either Rule 702 or Daubert. I fear, too, that the Majority may be misunderstood as
  inviting district judges, and future panels of this court, to
  resolve fact disputes under the guise of evaluating whether
  experts may testify at trial.
      Lastly, while I share the Majority’s frustration with the
  district court’s failure to create a better record for review, I
  do not agree that this deficiency is an abuse of discretion
  warranting reversal. If any remedy is required, it should
  be to vacate and remand for a better explanation from the
  district judge, not order him to conduct a new trial.
     I explain these three points, and why I believe we
  should affirm the district court, in more detail below.
                                 I
       The Majority justifies its decision by declaring that
  “[t]his is not a case where the relevant evidence can reasonably support competing conclusions,” as instead “[t]here
  can be no doubt” that EcoFactor’s three licensees did not
  agree to a lump-sum settlement based on an $X rate. Majority Opinion at 21 (emphasis added). To my colleagues,
  then, the record is so completely one-sided that the court’s
  holding is this: “Where, as here, the relevant evidence is
  contrary to a critical fact upon which the expert relied, the
  district court fails to fulfill its responsibility as gatekeeper
  by allowing the expert to testify at trial.” 
Id.
 (emphasis
  added).
       If I shared this view of the record, I would join the Majority Opinion. I agree that a district court should not
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  admit expert testimony that is unquestionably at odds with
  the evidence upon which an expert opinion is based. But I
  disagree with my colleagues’ characterization of the record.
  As Judge Reyna explains, there was sufficient evidence
  supporting Mr. Kennedy’s belief that one or more of EcoFactor’s licensees agreed to an $X rate. Reyna Dissent at
  3-14.
      The quarrel over how the record before us should be
  understood should not, however, obscure an important reality: today’s decision only governs where an expert’s testimony is undoubtedly contrary to a critical fact upon which
  the expert relies. Thus, in the vast majority of patent
  cases, where the relevant evidence the experts are considering can support competing conclusions, the Majority
  Opinion is inapplicable.
                                  II
       Notwithstanding the narrowness of the Majority’s
  holding, there is a risk that its opinion will be misread as
  requiring district judges, in pursuit of their gatekeeping responsibilities, to invade the province of jurors and resolve
  fact disputes. Regrettably, my colleagues seem to have
  opened the door to turning Rule 702 into a vehicle for judicial resolution of fact disputes, at least with respect to damages experts. My concern is grounded in the Majority’s
  apparent conclusion that the district court abused its discretion by permitting Mr. Kennedy to testify to an opinion
  that rested on disputed facts. Disputed facts, however, are
  not necessarily insufficient facts and data on which a reliable expert opinion may be based.
      As we have previously explained – in a case that, like
  today’s, applied Fifth Circuit law – when “parties’ experts
  rely on conflicting sets of facts, it is not the role of the trial
  court to evaluate the correctness of facts underlying one expert’s testimony.” Micro Chem., Inc. v. Lextron, Inc., 
317 F.3d 1387, 1392
 (Fed. Cir. 2003); see also 
id.
 (“Defendants
  confuse the requirement for sufficient facts and data with
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  the necessity for a reliable foundation in principles and
  method, and end up complaining that [the expert’s] testimony was not based on ‘reliable facts.’”); Pipitone v. Biomatrix, Inc., 
288 F.3d 239, 249-50
 (5th Cir. 2002) (holding that
  jury was entitled to hear expert testimony and decide
  whether to accept or reject it after considering whether
  predicate facts on which expert relied were accurate). In
  reaching this conclusion, both our court and the Fifth Circuit followed guidance from the Advisory Committee that
  drafted the 2000 amendments to Rule 702, which directed
  that the inquiry into “‘sufficient facts or data is not intended to authorize a trial court to exclude an expert’s testimony on the ground that the court believes one version of
  the facts and not the other.’” Micro Chem., 
317 F.3d at 1392
 (quoting Adv. Comm. note). The Advisory Committee
  reiterated this point in connection with the 2023 amendments to Rule 702, writing: “It will often occur that experts
  come to different conclusions based on contested sets of
  facts. Where that is so, the Rule 104(a) standard does not
  necessarily require exclusion of either side’s experts. Rather, by deciding the disputed facts, the jury can decide
  which side’s experts to credit.” (emphasis added).
       In my view, a reasonable jury could side with Mr. Kennedy’s interpretation of the disputed facts and, thereby,
  find as a fact that EcoFactor entered into lump-sum settlements with licensees who agreed to payments based on an
  $X rate. Mr. Kennedy’s interpretation is supported by language in each of the disputed licensing agreements. In
  each one, EcoFactor expressly represents its belief that the
  lump-sum payment is based on an $X royalty rate, making
  it at least marginally more likely that this is truly how the
  calculation was done than would be the case if Mr. Kennedy had made up the $X figure himself, solely for the purpose of litigation. J.A. 10389, 10400, 10411. More support
  is found in the Schneider Agreement, which includes a provision – “nothing in this clause should be interpreted as
  agreement by Schneider that [$X] per unit is a reasonable
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  royalty” (J.A. 10400) (emphasis added) – which could show
  that Schneider agreed with EcoFactor to use the $X rate to
  calculate the lump-sum it paid, and disputed only whether
  that agreed-upon $X rate was reasonable. Mr. Kennedy’s
  understanding of the agreements is also based on the testimony of EcoFactor’s CEO, Mr. Habib, who testified that
  he signed the license agreements for EcoFactor based on
  his belief – developed with input from non-attorney advisors, who (unlike him) had access to his competitors’ confidential sales data and projections – that the lump-sum
  amounts were calculated based on an $X rate. J.A. 5667-
  71. 2
      To be sure, there is also evidence in the record supporting Google’s contrasting belief that none of Schneider, Daikin, or Johnson ever agreed to an $X rate. For example,
  the Schneider and Daikin agreements (though not the
  Johnson agreement) provide that the “[lump-sum] amount
  [paid by each licensee] is not based upon sales and does not



      2   The Majority observes, correctly, that Mr. Habib’s
  testimony regarding reliance on counsel was stricken, Majority Opinion at 18 (citing J.A. 5670 (striking “our counsel”
  from Mr. Habib’s answer regarding advisors with access to
  confidential data)), but his testimony that he relied on non-attorney advisors remained in the record, J.A. 5670-71 (Mr.
  Habib testifying that $X rate came, in part, “from consulting with advisors”). The jury could reasonably infer that,
  consistent with standard practice, these advisors had access to the confidential sales data and projections of the
  parties EcoFactor had sued, who later became licensees.
  J.A. 5670 (“[S]o I wasn’t allowed to see them because –
  which is understandable and I would say normal. Since we
  are competitors, they wouldn’t want me to have their confidential financial information.”). A jury could have found
  Mr. Habib’s testimony, which Mr. Kennedy relied upon,
  J.A. 5739-43, 5763-66, 5769-71, 5797-98, credible.
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  reflect or constitute a royalty.” J.A. 10391, 10402. If
  Google believed this provision unambiguously constitutes
  the “express[] disavow[al]” or “reject[ion]” of the $X rate
  that the Majority concludes it is, Majority Opinion at 14-
  15, Google could have sought partial summary judgment
  that $X is not a reasonable royalty rate, or through some
  other procedural device asked the district court to interpret
  the license agreements. Google did not do so, yet the Majority now decides, as a matter of law, that all three agreements are unambiguous, despite neither party asking us to
  do so. See Majority Opinion at 12-16. 3



      3    Perhaps because we have no briefing on the issue
  of contract interpretation, the Majority does not analyze
  the licenses under the applicable state laws. See J.A. 10407
  (Schneider license governed by Massachusetts law); J.A.
  10395 (Daikin license governed by New York law); J.A.
  10417 (Johnson license governed by Delaware law). In
  these states, certain contract disputes are treated as issues
  of fact that may need to go to a jury. See Bank v. Thermo
  Elemental Inc., 
888 N.E.2d 897
, 909 (Mass. 2008) (explaining “it was error for the judge to rule as a matter of law” on
  “meaning of [an unambiguous] provision,” as this “presented a question of fact to be decided by the fact finder –
  in this case, the jury”); Amusement Bus. Underwriters v.
  Am. Int’l Grp., Inc., 
489 N.E.2d 729, 732
 (N.Y. 1985)
  (“While the meaning of a contract is ordinarily a question
  of law, when a term or clause is ambiguous and the determination of the parties’ intent depends upon the credibility
  of extrinsic evidence or a choice among inferences to be
  drawn from extrinsic evidence, then the issue is one of
  fact.”); Sunline Com. Carriers, Inc. v. CITGO Petroleum
  Corp., 
206 A.3d 836, 851-52
 (Del. 2019) (holding that trial
  court erred in finding contract unambiguous where two “viable” interpretations exist, and so reversing summary
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      Because the jury could reasonably have credited EcoFactor’s interpretation of the disputed evidence, that evidence can constitute “sufficient facts and data” under Rule
  702. A district court does not abdicate its gatekeeping role
  by allowing an expert to rely on disputed facts. Thus, the
  parties’ dispute over whether EcoFactor’s licensees actually agreed to an $X rate does not make Mr. Kennedy’s testimony inadmissible; it merely shows there was a fact
  dispute requiring resolution by a proper factfinder.
       That factfinder should not be us. Yet, in deeming there
  to be only one correct view of the contested evidence, my
  colleagues are taking it upon themselves to resolve the fact
  dispute. The Majority finds that the licenses “were insufficient individually or in combination” to support Mr. Kennedy’s conclusion that any of the prior licensees agreed to
  the $X rate, id. at 12, even though a jury could reasonably
  find otherwise. My colleagues also dismiss Mr. Habib’s testimony as nothing more than “an unsupported assertion
  from an interested party,” id. at 18, effectively deciding he
  is not credible. While Mr. Habib’s interests in the outcome
  of this suit, and his lack of direct access to the licensees’
  confidential data, may very well undermine the probative
  value of his testimony, that call is to be made by the jurors
  who observed him testify. 4 The question of whether Mr.



  judgment and remanding to allow “a jury [to] evaluate th[e]
  parol evidence to determine the parties’ intent”).
      4    Mr. Habib testified at trial, repeatedly and without
  objection, that it was his “understanding” the three lump-sum payments were derived by taking the licensees’ “past
  and future projected sales and multiplying that by” the $X
  royalty rate. J.A. 5667 (Daikin); J.A. 5668-69 (Schneider);
  J.A. 5669-70 (Johnson). Google has never contended, either in the district court or on appeal, that Mr. Habib lacks
  sufficient personal knowledge to testify as a fact witness on
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  Habib should be believed when he states as a matter of fact
  that the licensees actually agreed to an $X rate is not one
  we are privileged to answer.
      Given our approach here, I fear that district courts will
  take our decision as grounds for limiting damages experts
  to relying only on undisputed facts. I am also afraid that
  trial judges will read the Majority Opinion as requiring
  them, in the exercise of their gatekeeping role, to resolve
  fact disputes in Rule 702 proceedings even when no party
  asks them to do so. And I worry that today’s opinion may
  encourage future panels of this court to engage in improper
  appellate factfinding.
                               III
       Finally, like the Majority, I am troubled by the district
  court’s failure to put its reasoning on the record. See Majority Opinion at 5-6. In denying Google’s Daubert motion,
  the district judge said only: “I’m going to overrule the
  Daubert motion. You can cross-examine [Mr. Kennedy].”
  S.A. at 266. When the court later denied Google’s motions
  in limine and for a new trial on damages, which were likewise predicated on Mr. Kennedy’s testimony, it again issued rulings devoid of substantive rationale. See J.A. 2254,
  6688. 5 The district judge’s lack of explanation makes our



  this point. See Fed. R. Evid. 602 (“A witness may testify to
  a matter only if evidence is introduced sufficient to support
  a finding that the witness has personal knowledge of the
  matter. Evidence to prove personal knowledge may consist
  of the witness’s own testimony.”).
       5   The Majority notes that the ruling denying
  Google’s motion for a new trial was from the bench. Majority Opinion at 6. I do not take this to be criticism of the
  venerable practice of making oral rulings, which can create
  efficiencies for busy trial judges and deliver decisions to
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  reviewing function unnecessarily difficult. But it is not an
  abuse of discretion. Even if it were, that abuse would not
  warrant the relief we are granting.
       The Majority relies principally on a treatise, not binding precedent, in arriving at its conclusion that “[a]n absence of reviewable reasoning may be sufficient grounds for
  this court to conclude the district court abused its discretion.” Majority Opinion at 6; see also id. (citing 4 Weinstein’s Federal Evidence § 702.02[6][d]). Neither the Fifth
  Circuit nor Third Circuit cases the Majority cites, nor any
  of the cases cited in the section of Weinstein from which the
  Majority derives its conclusion, requires that we overturn
  a district court’s unexplained exercise of discretion (nor
  that we replace a district court’s ruling with our own). To
  the contrary, some of the cases cited in Weinstein determined that an explanatory deficiency was harmless error,
  warranting no further proceedings whatsoever; others remanded for a district court to again exercise its discretion
  in a manner to be determined by the district court itself.
  See, e.g., Smith v. Jenkins, 
732 F.3d 51, 65
 (1st Cir. 2013)
  (where “the absence of any findings or discussion on the
  record leaves us hard-pressed to conclude that the district
  court adequately fulfilled its gatekeeping role,” the appellate court reversed the denial of a motion to strike,
  “leav[ing] . . . the district court to consider [admissibility]
  on remand after performing a Daubert analysis”); In re
  Paoli R.R. Yard PCB Litig., 
916 F.2d 829, 858-59
 (3d Cir.
  1990) (vacating summary judgment of no liability and




  litigants more quickly. See generally Ueckert v. Guerra, 
38 F.4th 446, 449
 (5th Cir. 2022) (describing origins of English
  “ex tempore” rulings and stating “federal courts at least
  have not lost their power to rule from the bench”). The issue is the sufficiency of the explanation, not whether the
  judge’s words are spoken instead of written.
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  remanding for further proceedings, including a determination of whether the expert should be excluded).
       The Majority provides no reasoning for why the district
  court’s failure to explain itself is an abuse of discretion that
  is properly remedied only by an entirely new jury trial on
  damages. In my view, if the district court’s explanation is
  so deficient as to be an abuse of its discretion, the proper
  disposition should be to vacate the judgment and remand
  for the district judge to fulfill his gatekeeping responsibility. He might on remand choose to do so by providing sufficient explanation of his prior ruling or re-doing his
  analysis, potentially by conducting an evidentiary Daubert
  hearing, making findings of fact, and interpreting the license agreements.
                                IV
       For the reasons set out above, I would affirm the district court. Accordingly, I respectfully dissent.

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