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487 Md. 635

State v. Smith

Court of Appeals of Maryland

Decided August 13, 2024

Court of Appeals of Maryland · decided 2024-08-13

Relies on Ohio v. Roberts · Lee v. Illinois · Williamson v. United States

Decided 2024-08-13

State of Maryland v. Lamont Smith, No. 30, September Term, 2023, Opinion by Booth, J.


ADMISSION OF HEARSAY EVIDENCE UNDER DECLARATION AGAINST
PENAL INTEREST—The Supreme Court of Maryland has established a process for
admitting certain types of hearsay statements that fall within a particular hearsay
exception that is commonly known as the “declaration against penal interest.” State v.
Matusky, 
343 Md. 467
 (1996). Under that process, when a proponent seeks to admit
presumptively inadmissible hearsay statements that comprise an extended narrative or
interview, a trial court must conduct a “parsing analysis” in which the court must break
down the narrative and determine the separate admissibility of each single declaration or
remark. The test for admissibility that the trial court must apply “to each statement
within a declaration is whether a reasonable person in the declarant’s circumstances
would have believed the statement was adverse to his or her penal interest at the time it
was made.” 
Id. at 492
. A trial court may not simply admit the extended narrative or
interview in toto without determining that each statement contained therein was self-inculpatory as to the declarant.

PRESERVATION FOR APPELLATE REVIEW—Where the State sought to admit a
55-minute interview by law enforcement of an individual under the declaration against
penal interest exception to the hearsay rule under Maryland Rule 5-804(b)(3), and the
trial court failed to undertake the parsing process required by Maryland case law in order
to admit this particular type of hearsay evidence, defense counsel sufficiently preserved
the defendant’s objections for appellate review.
Circuit Court for Wicomico County
Case No.: C-22-CR-19-000554
Argued: May 6, 2024
                                                    IN THE SUPREME COURT

                                                        OF MARYLAND


                                                              No. 30

                                                      September Term, 2023


                                                    STATE OF MARYLAND

                                                                 v.

                                                        LAMONT SMITH


                                                    Fader, C.J.,
                                                    Watts,
                                                    Booth,
                                                    Biran,
                                                    Gould,
                                                    Eaves,
                                                    Hotten, Michele D.
                                                      (Senior Justice, Specially Assigned),


                                                              JJ.


                                                       Opinion by Booth, J.
                                                        Biran, J., dissents.


                                                       Filed: August 13, 2024
Pursuant to the Maryland Uniform Electronic Legal
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            2025.02.25
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       This Court has established a process for admitting certain types of hearsay

statements that fall within a particular hearsay exception that is commonly known as the

“declaration against penal interest.” State v. Matusky, 
343 Md. 467
 (1996). 1 Under that

process, when a proponent seeks to admit presumptively inadmissible hearsay statements

that comprise an extended narrative or interview, a trial court must conduct a “parsing

analysis” in which the court must break down the narrative and determine the separate

admissibility of each single declaration or remark. The test for admissibility that the

trial court must apply “to each statement within a declaration is whether a reasonable

person in the declarant’s circumstances would have believed the statement was adverse to

his or her penal interest at the time it was made.” 
Id. at 492
. A trial court may not simply

admit the extended narrative or interview in toto without first determining that each

statement contained therein was self-inculpatory as to the declarant.

       The trial court’s analysis of each statement “can be a fact-intensive inquiry,”

which requires careful examination of all the circumstances surrounding the criminal

activity involved. 2 This may be especially true when a proponent seeks the admission of

an extensive narrative or interview containing many individual statements.



       1
         Although Matusky is our most recent case on this topic, as discussed herein, we
first addressed the parsing analysis in State v. Standifur, 
310 Md. 3
 (1987). And
thereafter, the United States Supreme Court adopted a similar approach for admitting this
type of hearsay evidence under the federal rules of evidence in Williamson v. United
States, 
512 U.S. 594
 (1994). In Matusky, we adopted Williamson and reconciled it with
Standifur.
       2
           Williamson, 
512 U.S. at 604
 (cleaned up).
       In this case, the State sought to admit law enforcement’s extensive interview of

Mr. Tony Blake (the “Blake Interview”) as a declaration against penal interest in the

criminal trial of the Respondent, Mr. Lamont Smith. The interview is 55 minutes long,

contains approximately 250 questions from law enforcement to Mr. Blake, and

Respondent is mentioned or referenced approximately 88 times. In seeking its admission,

the State acknowledged that some statements contained in the Blake Interview were

inculpatory solely as to the Respondent. However, the State urged the trial court to admit

the Blake Interview in its entirety because the statements “were so interwoven” that they

could not be separated. At the pre-trial hearing, defense counsel objected on several

grounds, including disputing that all of the statements were self-inculpatory to Mr. Blake.

Defense counsel also disagreed with the State’s “interwoven” theory of admissibility.

      After hearing arguments of counsel, the circuit court ruled that the entirety of the

Blake Interview was admissible. In doing so, however, the court failed to conduct the

parsing analysis required by Matusky.      Instead, it treated the interview as a single

statement and ruled that it was admissible as a declaration against penal interest.

Thereafter, the Blake Interview was admitted at trial and published to the jury over

defense counsel’s objection. Respondent was found guilty on multiple charges involving

possession and conspiracy to distribute controlled dangerous substances (“CDS”).

      On appeal, Respondent argued that the trial court erred in admitting the entire

Blake Interview without undertaking the admission process required by Matusky. The

State maintained that the Appellate Court could not consider Respondent’s argument

because defense counsel did not identify, and request specific redactions of, the

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inadmissible statements contained within the interview. The Appellate Court rejected the

State’s argument and determined that Respondent had adequately preserved his objection

to the trial court’s failure to undertake the process required by Matusky. Smith v. State,

259 Md. App. 622
 (2023). That court held that the trial court erred in admitting the entire

Blake Interview into evidence, and vacated Respondent’s convictions. 
Id. at 673
.

       We granted the State’s petition for writ of certiorari to answer one question:

whether the Appellate Court erred in holding that Respondent adequately preserved his

objection to the trial court’s failure to undertake the process required under Matusky for

the admission of this particular type of hearsay evidence. For the reasons set forth herein,

we hold that the Appellate Court did not err. On the record before us, we determine that

Respondent made sufficient objections to preserve his argument that the trial court failed

to undertake the process for admission that is unique to this particular type of hearsay

evidence.

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                                       Background

       In the early morning hours of August 9, 2019, law enforcement raided a home in

Salisbury, Maryland on suspicion that it was housing a drug trafficking operation. Upon

entering the home, officers discovered, among other things, a large amount of CDS, and

arrested the residents of the home, Mr. Blake and Mr. Dwight Woods. They also arrested

Respondent, who claimed he was an overnight guest.

       For approximately one month prior to the raid, the home had been placed under

surveillance after receiving information that it was being used for heroin sales. Detective

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Michael Kirkland, 3 working undercover, made four purchases of CDS from Mr. Woods

in July and August 2019.

      The State charged Respondent in a 42-count indictment with various drug related

offenses, including counts of being a drug kingpin to distribute heroin and fentanyl;

counts of conspiracy to possess and distribute large amounts of heroin, fentanyl, cocaine,

and alprazolam; and one count of unlawful possession of ammunition. The State also

brought charges against Mr. Woods but not against Mr. Blake, who was terminally ill and

required medical care and supervision. Respondent was acquitted or found not guilty of

30 counts, including all of the drug kingpin charges, but he was convicted of counts for

possession and conspiracy to possess heroin, fentanyl, cocaine, and alprazolam. The

court sentenced Respondent to an aggregate of four years in prison in May 2022.

      A.     The Blake Interview

      Sergeant Tyler Bennett and Sergeant Jordan Banks 4 conducted an interview of Mr.

Blake at his home on August 27, 2019—18 days after the raid. At Respondent’s criminal

trial, a redacted version of the Blake Interview was played and published to the jury over

the objection of defense counsel. The State explained at trial that the recording was “not

the full continuous interview” because the State had excised portions that it believed

“wouldn’t have been relevant[.]” Defense counsel agreed that “[t]he stuff [the State]

      3
       Detective Kirkland is with the Ocean City Police Department’s Narcotics Unit.
Ocean City’s task force assisted the Wicomico County Sheriff’s office “as needed” for
undercover police work.
      4
       As of July and August 2019, Sergeant Bennett and Sergeant Banks were
employed by the Wicomico County Sheriff’s Office.

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redacted was stuff that really legitimately, it just shouldn’t come in because it just had

nothing to do with this[,]” but maintained that he did not think “any of it is relevant.”

       Sergeant Bennett and Sergeant Banks began the conversation by telling Mr. Blake

that they wanted to talk to him about the case that he was “involved in as a co-

defendant[.]” Mr. Blake was seated and wearing nothing but a blanket. The interview

was recorded on the body camera of one of the officers. The officers informed Mr. Blake

that the interview was being recorded and read him his Miranda rights. Mr. Blake

confirmed that he understood those rights and verbally waived them because he was

physically unable to sign a statement.

       The interview is difficult to follow because of Mr. Blake’s declining health, his

generic use of the word “him” to refer to both Respondent and Mr. Woods, and the fact

that Mr. Blake was describing the drug distribution operation at different points in time

without clarifying the time frame to which he was referring. What is very clear, however,

is that the officers’ primary purpose in conducting the interview was to obtain

information pertaining to Respondent’s involvement in the drug operation. Throughout

the interview, the officers repeatedly redirected Mr. Blake to questions involving

Respondent’s participation in the criminal enterprise. In total, over the course of the

approximately 55-minute interview, the officers and Mr. Blake made approximately 88

references to “Mont” or “Lamont” on the redacted version of the Blake Interview that

was introduced by the State. 5


       5
           Respondent is referred to as “Lamont” and “Mont” in the interview.

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       The very first question the officers asked Mr. Blake was: “[s]o what’s going on

with Mont?” One officer asked, “[w]hose stuff is it in the house - - that was in the

house?” to which Mr. Blake replied, “[t]he boy, Shamir[,]” 6 referring to Mr. Woods. Mr.

Blake repeatedly asserted that the drugs seized on the day of the raid belonged to Mr.

Woods, and that Mr. Woods “leaves late at night” and “[b]rings it down”; whereas

Respondent’s “involvement” was that “[h]e just knows about it.” Mr. Blake stated that

“[a]t first” he worked for Respondent, but that Respondent “fell back because he’s ready

to start a family with his wife and get married.”

       The officers asked Mr. Blake about the operational details of the drug enterprise

when he first became involved. According to Mr. Blake, for a period of “[c]lose to a

year,” Respondent provided him with a cell phone. Mr. Blake’s duties were to answer

the phone, arrange deliveries, and drive to meetings where he would exchange drugs for

money. Respondent lived near Baltimore City and would visit Salisbury a few times a

week. During these visits, Mr. Blake would give Respondent the proceeds from the drug

sales, less expenses and his salary, and Respondent would supply Mr. Blake with new

drugs that were prepackaged and ready for sale.

       Mr. Blake explained that in recent months, he turned money over to, and accepted

new drugs from, Mr. Woods, rather than from Respondent. Mr. Blake stated that because

of his deteriorating health, and the fact that he had become “too slow,” Mr. Woods had

“demoted” him to having almost no role in the enterprise. Mr. Blake stated that, within


       6
           Throughout the interview, Mr. Woods is referred to as “Shamir” and “Samir.”

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the last two months before the raid, Respondent would visit to “take care of [him]” and to

“take [him] to the hospital” for medical treatment, and that this was his only interaction

with Respondent.

      Despite being cooperative throughout the interview, Mr. Blake’s answers were

often unintelligible, and his narrative was confusing, which prompted the officers to say,

“it doesn’t make any sense[,]” or “your story makes no sense”:

      [SGT. BENNETT]: But how much did he give you at a time here to sell; is
                      what I’m asking?

      MR. BLAKE:           Which one?

      [SGT. BENNETT]: Lamont.

      MR. BLAKE:           Like 15.

      [SGT. BENNETT]: So he came daily because you said you sold ten a day
                      rough sometimes.

      MR. BLAKE:           No. He would - - when he come down on the
                           weekends, that’s when he would bring to me. But
                           whenever the boy, Shamir, had, was already down
                           here.

      [SGT. BENNETT]: Was already stored here?

      MR. BLAKE:           I don’t know where he had it at.

      [SGT. BENNETT]: So it doesn’t make any - - it doesn’t make any sense.

      MR. BLAKE:           I told the dude it’s over at Pemberton (phonetic)
                           somewhere but I don’t know where.

      [SGT. BENNETT]: So he would bring 15 - - it doesn’t make any sense.
                      Who - - so - - how does the organization work? Who’s
                      in charge?



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      MR. BLAKE:           The boy, Shamir, has the stuff.        Mont knows the
                           people.

      [SGT. BENNETT]: Okay.

      MR. BLAKE:           When he brings it down, he takes it to Pemberton but I
                           don’t know which - -

      [SGT. BENNETT]: So Mont takes it to Pemberton?

      MR. BLAKE:           No, the boy - -

      [SGT. BANKS]:        So Samir is his transportation?

      MR. BLAKE:           - - (indiscernible) - - he’s claiming that he’s - - Shamir
                           has the stuff.

      [SGT. BENNETT]: This whole conversation makes zero sense.                  I’m
                      getting -

                                             

      [SGT. BENNETT]: I’m getting - - I’m getting a little bit frustrated.

      The lack of clarity in Mr. Blake’s responses was heightened by the officers’

attempts to redirect him from the manner in which the enterprise had worked in the past

to the present operations. For example, as reflected in the above-described exchange,

immediately after Mr. Blake explained the salary he earned from the Respondent at the

beginning of the enterprise, one of the officers asked Mr. Blake to clarify “how does the

organization work? Who’s in charge?” Mr. Blake responded, “[t]he boy, Shamir, has the

stuff. Mont knows the people.” In another instance, Sergeant Banks redirected:

      [SGT.] BANKS:        Mont called the shots and then when you started your -
                           - what happened when your medical health went
                           down? Who took over your spot when your health
                           went down south. When your health started getting
                           bad? Who took your spot?

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      [MR. BLAKE:]         Shamir.

      [SGT.] BANKS:        Okay.

      [MR. BLAKE:]         I mean, he’s the one that’s been bringing down.

      [SGT.] BANKS:        He’s been transporting it for Mont down here.

      MR. BLAKE:           Yeah.

      [SGT.] Banks:        Okay.

      [SGT. BENNETT]: So Mont - - so what I’m asking is, Mont’s still at the
                      top.

      MR. BLAKE:           No, he dropped out because he’s getting ready to get
                           married.

      Mr. Blake then continued to clarify that, previously, Respondent “was top[,]” but

“He dropped down. Samir took over” because Respondent was getting married and “[s]o

he said he wasn’t going to do nothing else.” Sergeant Bennett then asked:

      [SGT.] BENNETT: How long ago was that?

      MR. BLAKE:           I was demoted.

      [SGT.] BENNETT: How long ago was that?

      MR. BLAKE:           What? That Shamir took over?

      [SGT. BENNETT]: Uh-huh.

      MR. BLAKE:           The trip was like one (indiscernible) the plans for the
                           trip. So it’s been about two and half, three months.
                           Just before this.

      [SGT. BENNETT]: Well, this was only - - this was less than a month ago.
                      This was only three weeks ago.



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      Sergeant Bennett continued to press Mr. Blake about Respondent’s role in the

enterprise, and eventually narrowed his questions to the few weeks leading up to the

raid—during the time in which the house was under surveillance. However, Mr. Blake

appeared unable to follow the questions:

      [SGT. BENNETT]: Okay. But you know that Mont and Samir and you, up
                      until a few weeks ago, all sold heroin, correct?

      MR. BLAKE:           No. I stopped.

      [SGT. BENNETT]: Up until a few weeks ago, you all sold heroin, correct?
                      So it shouldn’t be that big of a surprise if there was
                      heroin when a search warrant was done on Samir and
                      Mont.

      MR. BLAKE:           No. What I’m saying is I didn’t know it was here
                           because Mont was saying he was leaving to go out of
                           town.

       [SGT. BENNETT]: I get that.

       In the State’s motion to admit the interview at trial, the State noted that “[a]t the

conclusion of the interview, Mr. Blake suffered a health complication and was

transported to the hospital in an ambulance.”

       B.    The State’s Motion to Admit the Blake Interview

      The State filed a motion to introduce the Blake Interview based upon Mr. Blake’s

unavailability under Md. Rule 5-801(a)(4) due to his “failing health,” explaining that it

would be “infeasible to transport Mr. Blake to court from his assisted care facility.” The

State argued that the Blake Interview, although hearsay, should be admitted under

Maryland Rule 5-804(b)(3) as a “statement against interest,” because it “so tended to

subject the declarant to civil or criminal liability . . . that a reasonable person in the

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declarant’s position would not have made the statement unless the person believed it to

be true.” The State contended that Mr. Blake’s testimony was “material” to Mr. Smith’s

prosecution. The State also argued that “Mr. Blake’s statement is undoubtedly against

his penal interest[]” and that “a reasonable person in his situation would have perceived

his statements to be against his interest at the time.” The State further contended that the

“corroborating circumstances clearly indicate the trustworthiness of the statement,” and

that extrinsic evidence supported “Mr. Blake’s telling of events.”

       In its written motion, the State acknowledged that the court was required to “parse

the whole of the statement into its individual, inculpating parts, and other such closely

related collateral statements[.]”    (Citing State v. Matusky, 
343 Md. 467
 (1996)).

However, the State claimed that “the statements that contain inculpating statements

relating to Mr. Blake are so interwoven with the statements that inculpate [Respondent]

that they cannot be severed.” The State further contended that the “collateral portions of

the statement that are so closely related to the inculpating excerpts” were “equally

trustworthy” such that they were “correspondingly admissible” under Rule 5-804(b)(3).

       Defense counsel filed a response opposing the admission of the Blake Interview

into evidence. Defense counsel first contended that the State failed to prove that Mr.

Blake was unavailable. Defense counsel also argued that the claimed “interwoven”

statements were not against Mr. Blake’s interest and criticized the prosecution for

“attempting to . . . get statements made by [Mr. Blake] that implicate [Respondent] into

evidence as if they are statements against interest.” The defense also parsed one of Mr.

Blake’s statements to illustrate that the statements were not “so interwoven” and were

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indeed severable and inadmissible: “For instance, if the witness made a statement that he

sold $1,000 worth of [h]eroin a week and that heroin was supplied to him by the

defendant, the statement against interest is the witness selling heroin and making . . .

$1,000, not that the defendant provided it to him.”

       Defense counsel also pointed out that the statement was vague as to the relevant

timeline of events and that counsel would not have the opportunity through cross-

examination to show the jury that Mr. Blake was “lessening his involvement in an

attempt of not getting charged in this case at the expense of” Respondent.

       The court held a hearing on the State’s motion on September 14, 2020. At the

hearing, the court asked whether the entire statement was against Mr. Blake’s penal

interest, stating, “the issue here is the part of the statement – I mean part of the nuance

here is the part of the statement that implicates [Respondent], not the statement where, in

effect, [Mr. Blake] implicates himself, correct?” The prosecutor agreed that “there are

definitely parts of the statement that are . . . solely against [Respondent’s] interest,” but

argued that “in a lot of portions of the interview . . . the statement is against both their

interests simultaneously and they are so interwoven that you couldn’t possibly separate

the two.”

       In arguing for admission of the entire interview, the prosecutor relied upon Justice

Scalia’s concurrence in Williamson v. United States, 
512 U.S. 594
, 605–07 (1994). 7 The

prosecutor noted that, as in that case, Mr. Blake was “describing the drug trafficking


       7
           We discuss Williamson v. United States, 
512 U.S. 594
 (1994) in detail infra.

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organization in excruciating detail. And when you are not the controller or the top level

of the drug trafficking organization and you describe its inner workings you necessarily

must inculpate other individuals and that is what occurred[.]”

       The State recognized that “[t]he issue predominantly that Your Honor has to parse

out is to whether or not the statements are solely against [Mr. Blake]’s interest. And

when they implicate [Mr. Smith] they are not so divorced from those statements, and I

don’t think they are divorced. I think in the majority of the spots in the interview the part

where the declarant, Mr. Blake, inculpates himself cannot be divorced from his

statements inculpating [Mr. Smith].” Again invoking Williamson, the State argued that

“[j]ust because you name somebody else for doing wrong doesn’t, as Justice Scalia said,

magically transform it into something that is not admissible.”

       The State identified examples of evidence that it intended to submit at trial to

corroborate the statements in Mr. Blake’s interview, including that: (1) an “undercover

officer did four controlled buys” with Mr. Woods, one of which was allegedly arranged

by an individual who identified himself as “Mont,” which corroborated Mr. Blake’s

assertion that Respondent was still involved after Mr. Woods had taken over the

operations; (2) Mr. Woods stated that he traveled out of town to obtain more narcotics,

which “corroborate[d] what Mr. Blake said” about Mr. Woods being the one who brought

the drugs to Salisbury; and (3) “[t]he car utilized to conduct the undercover buys of

[CDS] belong[ed] to Mr. Blake,” which was consistent with Mr. Blake’s statement that

Mr. Woods used his car to complete the transaction.



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       At the hearing, defense counsel continued to object to the Blake Interview coming

into evidence. Defense counsel challenged the prosecution’s assertion that Mr. Blake’s

statements were self-inculpatory and attacked the overall trustworthiness of the Blake

Interview on the basis that it was so “ambiguous” and “confusing” as to not be probative.

Defense counsel argued that the events described by Mr. Blake were unconnected to a

timeframe and described in a sequence in which “Mr. Woods took over the drug

operation from” Respondent, who “got out of the business when he got engaged” and was

“no longer doing it[.]” Defense counsel asserted that cross-examination of Mr. Blake

would be necessary to sort out the timeframe, particularly as to when Respondent

withdrew from the organization, stating: “I have no concept of if [the events described]

happened a week before, if that happened three months before, [or] if that happened a

year before. . . . If I had the ability to cross-examine [Mr. Blake,] we might very well

find out that that happened a year ago.”

       Referring to the statements in the Blake Interview, defense counsel also disputed

the “State’s argument that it is so interwoven, [Mr. Blake’s] own inculpating himself and

his inculpating my client[,]” as to be admissible under the declaration against interest

exception.

       The court asked defense counsel if he considered the Blake Interview to be

exculpatory of Respondent. Counsel admitted that “I spent a lot of time going back and

forth as to whether I should just allow this in,” but explained that overall, the interview

was problematic because of the confusing timeframes.



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       After hearing arguments of counsel, the court granted the State’s motion to admit

the Blake Interview into evidence as a declaration against penal interest. The court had

no trouble determining that Mr. Blake was unavailable. 8 The court stated that “the bigger

question is whether under 5-804(b)(3) his statement should be admissible at trial.” In

explaining its ruling, the court stated:

       I don’t question whether or not his statement is a statement against interest,
       I also don’t necessarily question the reliability of it. I do think the sort of
       interesting segue obviously is obviously whether or not that statement that
       then ties in [Respondent] should be admissible at his trial . . . . I have
       looked, I know my law clerk has looked, I think the State and [defense
       counsel] have looked to find a Maryland case on point and I don’t think any
       of us have been successful. [The State] cited to the Williamson case, which
       I have not reviewed for this case but I have reviewed previously. The
       Court would note that Justice Scalia’s concurrence does seem to be on
       point. So the Court is going to grant the State’s request to allow the
       statement to be heard.

       C.     Jury Trial

       Respondent’s jury trial occurred over two days in April 2022. Given that the only

issue before us pertains to the State’s assertion that the Appellate Court incorrectly

decided a preservation issue, we provide only a cursory overview of the evidence for

context.

       Detective Kirkland testified that, as an undercover officer, he made four controlled

purchases of heroin from Mr. Woods in July and August 2019. He initiated the first


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         The circuit court explained that “in my review of [Mr. Blake’s] health conditions
or his physical condition on the video as well as [the assistant state’s attorney’s] proffer
of [Mr. Blake’s] current physical condition, as well as the list of the medical conditions
that he’s suffering from as well as his placement in the assisted living sort of facility
indicate his unavailability for trial.”

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transaction by calling a phone number and arranging the purchase with Mr. Blake and

Mr. Woods. The purchase occurred in a bathroom at a grocery store. For the second

purchase, Detective Kirkland called the same phone number, but this time a “different

male” answered the phone and said that “his name was Mont,” and instructed him to call

a different number for Mr. Woods. Detective Kirkland called the number and arranged a

purchase from Mr. Woods inside Detective Kirkland’s car at a nearby gas station.

Thereafter, Detective Kirkland arranged two more purchases with Mr. Woods.

       Sergeant Bennett testified concerning the investigation into the drug operation and

identified the targets of his investigation as Mr. Blake, Respondent, and Mr. Woods. He

testified concerning the circumstances surrounding the Blake Interview. Defense counsel

noted a standing objection to Sergeant Bennett’s testimony about the content of the

interview and objected again when the State introduced the Blake Interview into

evidence. Defense counsel’s objections were overruled, and the Blake Interview was

admitted into evidence and published to the jury. 9


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           The State also introduced the testimony of five other witnesses. Detective
Burley Williams and Sergeant Banks, both with the Wicomico County Sherriff’s Office,
testified about their participation in the surveillance of the enterprise, corroborated
Detective Kirkland’s testimony concerning the purchases, and established the chain of
custody for the purchases that were sent for laboratory analysis. On the second day of
trial, the State called Detective Andrew Riggin, who testified that he obtained the search
and seizure warrant and then conducted the raid on the house. His testimony primarily
related to the layout of the house and the items that were seized. He also testified that
during the surveillance, he saw Respondent at the house approximately four times, but
that he saw Mr. Woods and Mr. Blake there more often. Jessica Bullis, a forensic
chemist, testified that she performed the laboratory testing of the suspected narcotics
received from the controlled purchases and that her testing revealed the presence of
heroin and fentanyl. She also identified the CDS that were seized in the raid, which

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       After the State rested, Respondent moved for a judgment of acquittal as to all

counts. The circuit court granted the motion as to counts 6 (conspiracy to distribute

fentanyl), 21 (possession of more than 28 grams of heroin), 22 (possession of more than 5

grams of fentanyl), 23 (conspiracy to possess more than 28 grams of heroin), 24

(conspiracy to possess more than 5 grams of fentanyl), and 25 (conspiracy to possess

more than 28 grams of heroin), but denied the motion as to the remaining counts.

      Respondent testified in his own defense. He testified that he had known Mr. Blake

since the early- to mid-1990s and that they were friends. He explained that he knew Mr.

Woods through Mr. Blake and was aware that they both sold drugs.                 Although

Respondent admitted that he had previously been convicted of certain drug-related

felonies, including heroin distribution, he consistently denied that he had any

involvement with Mr. Woods’s drug sales. Respondent testified that he did not live at the

house in which the raid took place, but he visited from time-to-time to take Mr. Blake to

his medical appointments. He explained that he was at the house on the night of the raid

because he was taking care of Mr. Blake and was going to drive his mother-in-law for a

family trip. Respondent testified that none of the ammunition or drugs that were seized

during the raid belonged to him.




included heroin, fentanyl, cocaine, and alprazolam. Lastly, Michael Daugherty, a special
investigator for the Wicomico County State’s Attorney’s Office, was qualified as an
expert in drug valuation, identification, investigations, and the common practices of users
and dealers of CDS and drugs. He testified to the street value of the seized evidence and
to the organizational structure of the drug enterprise.

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       After the defense rested, Respondent again moved for a judgment of acquittal,

arguing that the State had failed to prove a necessary element of the drug kingpin

charges, specifically, the threshold amount of heroin and fentanyl. The court granted the

motion as to count 12 (possession with intent to distribute alprazolam), but denied the

motion as to the remaining counts.

       Thereafter, the jury found Respondent guilty on twelve counts—counts 30 through

33 (possession of CDS other than marijuana) and counts 34 through 41 (conspiracy to

possess CDS other than marijuana). Respondent was either acquitted by the court or

found not guilty by the jury of the remaining 30 counts.

       The court imposed four one-year sentences for the CDS possession charges

(counts 30–33) to be served consecutively. Moreover, after merging the eight conspiracy

convictions into four (counts 34–41), the trial judge imposed one-year sentences for each.

Since the sentences for the conspiracy convictions were to be served concurrently with

the sentences for the possession convictions, however, Mr. Smith’s aggregate sentence

was four years of incarceration. The court granted Respondent credit for time served

from his arrest in the raid on August 9, 2019.

       D.     The Appellate Court of Maryland

       Respondent timely appealed his convictions to the Appellate Court of Maryland.

He argued that the trial court erred by admitting the Blake Interview in its entirety as a

declaration against penal interest without undertaking the parsing analysis required by

Matusky. The Appellate Court agreed with Respondent and held that “the trial court

erred by admitting the entire version of the Blake interview offered by the State under the

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statement against penal interest exception to the hearsay rule set forth in Maryland Rule

5-804(b)(3) without parsing the narrative and redacting those portions not genuinely self-

inculpatory as to Mr. Blake.”      Smith v. State, 
259 Md. App. 622
, 632–33 (2022)

(emphasis in original).

       The Appellate Court held that under Matusky, the trial court “needed to inquire

whether each of the statements in the Blake Interview was truly self-inculpatory.” 
Id. at 633
. The court held that while some statements could be deemed equally inculpatory of

Mr. Blake and Respondent, “other statements could not be considered genuinely

inculpatory of Mr. Blake because they merely served to shift blame for the present

workings of the enterprise.” 
Id.

       Relevant to the issue now before us, the Appellate Court rejected the State’s

preservation argument. 10 While the court recognized that it is generally “the obligation

of the party seeking redaction to raise the issue to the judge,” it concluded that “the

present case is ultimately governed by Matusky[.]” 
Id.
 at 670–71. The Appellate Court

rejected the State’s harmless error argument and vacated Mr. Smith’s convictions. 11


       10
         Additionally, the Appellate Court held that Respondent waived any argument as
to whether the admission of the Blake Interview violated his confrontation rights under
the Sixth Amendment of the United States Constitution and Article 21 of the Maryland
Declaration of Rights, as his objection to its admission was contained to the Maryland
Rules. Smith v. State, 
259 Md. App. 622
, 646–67 (2023). Lastly, the Appellate Court
held that “the State presented sufficient corroborating circumstances to permit the
admission of portions of the Blake Interview[,]” as required by Maryland Rule 5-
804(b)(3). 
Id. at 667
. These issues are not presently before this Court.
       11
         On August 24, 2023, the State filed a motion for reconsideration in light of this
Court’s decision in Woodlin v. State, 
484 Md. 253
 (2023), which was published the same

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       Thereafter, the State filed a petition for writ of certiorari asserting that the

Appellate Court erred in holding that Respondent adequately preserved his objection to

the trial court’s failure to undertake the process for admission of this particular type of

hearsay evidence.

                                             II

                                   Standard of Review

       This case involves a circuit court’s admission of hearsay statements that were part

of an extended narrative or interview that the State sought to introduce at trial pursuant to

the declaration against penal interest exception under Md. Rule 5-804(b)(3). Our case

law establishes a process that a trial court must undertake before admitting this particular

type of evidence. The State contends that the Appellate Court erred in its interpretation

of our case law, and in doing so, “created a new exception” to “the general rule[,]” that

the State asserts arises under case law, that imposes a duty on the opponent of the

admission of the evidence to request redaction in order to properly raise a “failure-to-

redact” claim.   Where an issue involves the application of Maryland case law, we

determine whether the lower court’s conclusions are legally correct under a de novo

standard of review. Plank v. Cherneski, 
469 Md. 548, 569
 (2020).




day as the Appellate Court’s decision in this case. The Appellate Court denied the State’s
motion.

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                                             III

                                        Discussion

       Before turning to the State’s preservation argument, we provide an overview of

the declaration against penal interest exception to the hearsay rule, as well as the

particular process that a trial court is required to undertake when considering the

statements contained within an extended interview or narrative in this context—a process

that uniquely applies only to this particular type of hearsay evidence.

       A.     Hearsay and the Declaration Against Penal Interest Exception

       Hearsay is “a statement,[12] other than one made by the declarant while testifying

at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.” Md.

Rule 5-801(c). Hearsay is inadmissible “[e]xcept as provided by [the Maryland R]ules or

permitted by applicable constitutional provisions or statutes[.]” Md. Rule 5-802. In State

v. Galicia, 
479 Md. 341, 354
 (2022), we explained that the default exclusion of hearsay is

premised on the theory

       that out-of-court statements are subject to particular hazards. The declarant
       might be lying; he might have misperceived the events which he relates; he
       might have faulty memory; his words might be misunderstood or taken out
       of context by the listener. And the ways in which these dangers are
       minimized for in-court statements—the oath, the witness’ awareness of the
       gravity of the proceedings, the jury’s ability to observe the witness’
       demeanor, and, most importantly, the right of the opponent to cross-examine—are generally absent for things said out of court.



       12
          Maryland Rule 5-801(a) provides: “A ‘statement’ is (1) an oral or written
assertion or (2) nonverbal conduct of a person, if it is intended by the person as an
assertion.”

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Id.
 (quoting Williamson, 
512 U.S. at 598
). Thus, hearsay is presumptively inadmissible

evidence. If, and only if, the proponent for the admission of the hearsay satisfies the

requirements of one of a myriad of exceptions to the general exclusion rule, can it be

admitted at trial. Curtis v. State, 
259 Md. App. 283
, 314 (2023) (“It is well-established in

our jurisprudence that hearsay will be excluded, unless the proponent demonstrates its

probable trustworthiness by establishing that a recognized exception to the rule against

admissibility is applicable.” (emphasis in original) (citations omitted)); see also, e.g., Md.

Rules 5-802.1 through 5-804.

       One such exception is the declaration against penal interest, which allows for the

admission of certain out-of-court statements that have the tendency to expose the

declarant to criminal liability. Even prior to the codification of the Rules of Evidence in

Title 5 of the Maryland Rules of Procedure in 1994, we long recognized this exception.

See, e.g., Aetna Cas. & Sur. Co. v. Kuhl, 
296 Md. 446
 (1983); Merrick v. State, 
283 Md. 1
 (1978); Thomas v. State, 
186 Md. 446
 (1946). This exception is based on the general

premise that “persons do not make statements which are damaging to themselves unless

satisfied for good reason that they are true.” State v. Standifur, 
310 Md. 3, 11
 (1987)

(quoting Fed. R. Evid. 804(b)(3) advisory committee’s note); see also West v. State, 
124 Md. App. 147, 166
 (1998) (“The rationale for admission of [declarations against penal

interest] is that there is a circumstantial guarantee of sincerity when one makes a

statement adverse to one’s interest.” (citations omitted)); Joseph F. Murphy, Jr.,

Maryland Evidence Handbook § 802[E] (5th ed. 2020) (“This exception is based on the



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theory that it is unlikely that a person will make a false statement that could be used to

bring about . . . a loss of liberty.”).

       This exception, now codified as Maryland Rule 5-804(b)(3), requires the declarant

to be unavailable, 13 and provides that the following is “not excluded by the hearsay rule”:

       A statement which was at the time of its making so contrary to the
       declarant’s . . . proprietary interest, so tended to subject the declarant to . . .
       criminal liability, . . . that a reasonable person in the declarant’s position
       would not have made the statement unless the person believed it to be true.
       A statement tending to expose the declarant to criminal liability and offered
       in a criminal case is not admissible unless corroborating circumstances
       clearly indicate the trustworthiness of the statement.

For a statement to be admissible under Rule 5-804(b)(3), the proponent of the evidence

has the burden to demonstrate, and the trial court must determine that “(1) the declarant is

unavailable, (2) the statement is genuinely adverse to the declarant’s penal interest, and

(3) corroborating circumstances clearly indicate the trustworthiness of the statement.”

Galicia, 
479 Md. at 359
.

       Some statements that appear to be against the declarant’s penal interest are

actually ones for which the declarant may reap the most benefit—specifically, statements

that inculpate both the declarant and another person. This Court and the United States

Supreme Court have recognized that a hearsay statement that implicates a codefendant is

particularly unreliable:

       [W]e must treat as “inevitably suspect” a statement made to persons in
       authority and implicating a codefendant, even though the statement also

       13
           A declarant is unavailable if he or she, among other things, “is unable to be
present or to testify at the hearing because of death or then existing physical or mental
illness or infirmity[.]” Md. Rule 5-804(a)(4).

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       contains an admission of the declarant’s culpability . . . . A defendant
       implicating his confederate may do so to curry favor with the authorities, to
       achieve a plea bargain, to shift the blame by showing that another was more
       culpable, or simply to have another with whom to share the blame.

Standifur, 
310 Md. at 13
 (quoting Cruz v. New York, 
481 U.S. 186, 1990
 (1987)).

Because of this inherent unreliability, when determining whether a statement is

sufficiently self-inculpatory to qualify under the exception, the court should consider “the

content of the statement in the light of all known and relevant circumstances surrounding

the making of the statement and all relevant information concerning the declarant.” Id. at

17.

       B.     The Trial Court’s Duty to Parse Each Statement in a Narrative

       The United States Supreme Court and this Court have held that when a proponent

seeks to admit an extended declaration or narrative under the declaration against penal

interest exception to the hearsay rule—such as the extended narrative in the Blake

Interview—it may not be admitted without evaluating each statement and excluding

those that do not inculpate the declarant. See Williamson, 
512 U.S. at 600
 (holding that,

under the federal rule analogous to Md. Rule 5-804(b)(3), the trial court erred by

admitting the entire declaration without determining whether each statement was

inculpatory of the declarant); Matusky, 
343 Md. at 485, 491
 (holding that a statement-by-

statement analysis was required under the common law and Md. Rule 5-804(b)(3) and

adopting Williamson as a persuasive interpretation of Maryland law). As we explain

below, when presented with an extended hearsay narrative, these cases require that the

trial court analyze each statement to determine whether a reasonable person in the


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declarant’s position would have believed it to be adverse to their penal interest when the

declarant made it, “determin[ing] the separate admissibility of each single declaration or

remark.” Matusky, 
343 Md. at 492
 (quoting State v. Mason, 
460 S.E.2d 36, 45
 (W. Va.

1995)) (cleaned up). Although our decision in Matusky is the most recent articulation of

the process that the trial court is required to undertake, we summarize cases that preceded

it as we adopted the framework established in those cases.

                                      State v. Standifur

        In Standifur, which was decided prior to the adoption of Title 5 of the Maryland

Rules, we addressed the necessity of parsing each self-inculpatory part of a larger hearsay

narrative for the first time. 
310 Md. 3
 (1987). In that case, a declarant-witness who had

illegally purchased a gun that was used in a burglary gave a statement to law

enforcement. 
Id.
 at 6–7. At trial, the declarant-witness was unavailable, and a state

trooper was permitted to recount his statements as declarations against penal interest. 
Id. at 8
. The Appellate Court of Maryland reversed, and this Court affirmed that decision.

Id. at 9
.

        After explaining the rationale of the declaration against penal interest exception to

the hearsay rule, we explained that “[i]nculpatory statements may be divided into

collateral and noncollateral statements.” 
Id. at 15
. Noncollateral statements are those “in

which the facts inculpating the defendant are found in the portion of the statement

directly against the declarant’s interest.” 
Id.
 at 15–16. By contrast, collateral statements

are those “in which the inculpatory material is not found in the portion of the statement



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directly against the declarant’s interest, but instead appears in another portion of the

statement.” 
Id. at 16
.

       We then outlined the process for analyzing the admissibility of a hearsay statement

offered as a declaration against penal interest. 
Id. at 17
. In its opinion below, the

Appellate Court succinctly summarized the analytical test that we set forth in Standifur,

which we can summarize no better:

       (1) Unavailability. The trial court must find that the declarant is
          unavailable to testify at trial.

       (2) Penal Interest/Nature of the Statement as Whole. The trial court—
          considering “the content of the statement in the light of all known and
          relevant circumstances surrounding the making of the statement and all
          relevant information concerning the declarant”—must “determine
          whether the statement was in fact against the declarant’s penal interest
          and whether a reasonable person in the situation of the declarant would
          have perceived that it was against his penal interest at the time it was
          made.”

       (3) Reliability. The trial court must then “consider whether there are
          present any other facts or circumstances, including those indicating a
          motive to falsify on the part of the declarant, that so cut against the
          presumption of reliability normally attending a declaration against
          interest that the statements should not be admitted.”

       (4) Final Inquiry/Parsing. Finally, “a statement against interest that
          survives this analysis, and those related statements so closely connected
          with it as to be equally trustworthy, are admissible as declarations
          against interest.”[14]

Smith, 259 Md. App. at 659–60 (quoting Standifur, 
310 Md. at 12, 17
) (emphasis omitted

in part) (footnote omitted). Applying this framework, this Court concluded that the

       14
         As we discuss herein, Matusky modified this fourth step pertaining to “collateral
statements.” Under Matusky, each statement in the narrative is required to satisfy the
admissibility requirements.

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declarant-witness’s statement should not have been admitted into evidence because the

evidence was insufficient to prove that a reasonable person in his position “would have

understood the disserving nature of the statement[,]” and “the totality of circumstances

under which the statement was made militate[d] against a finding of the requisite

reliability.” Standifur, 
310 Md. at 17
.

                                Williamson v. United States

       A few years later, in Williamson v. United States, the Supreme Court considered

the admissibility of a codefendant’s partially self-inculpatory statement as a declaration

against penal interest under Federal Rule of Evidence 804(b)(3). 
512 U.S. 594
 (1994).

There, the declarant, Harris, was arrested after he was discovered with a large quantity of

cocaine in the trunk of his rental car.     
Id. at 596
.   During an interview with law

enforcement officers, Harris indicated, among other things, that the cocaine belonged to

Williamson and that Harris was simply a courier. 
Id.
 at 596–97. Williamson was

subsequently charged with various drug offenses. 
Id.
 At Williamson’s trial, Harris

refused to testify and, thus, the trial court permitted one of the officers who interviewed

Harris to testify as to Harris’s statements, concluding that they were admissible under

Fed. R. 804(b)(3). 
Id.
 at 597–98. The United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh

Circuit affirmed, but the Supreme Court reversed, concluding that the statements were

not properly admitted. 
Id. at 598
.

       The Court narrowly construed the word “statement” contained in the rule to mean

“a single declaration or remark,” as opposed to an extended declaration or narrative. 
Id. at 599
. The Court explained that “the most faithful reading of Rule 804(b)(3) is that it

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does not allow admission of non-self-inculpatory statements, even if they are made

within a broader narrative that is generally self-inculpatory.” 
Id.
 at 600–01. The Court

went on to state that there was “no reason why collateral statements, even ones that are

neutral as to interest . . . should be treated any differently from other hearsay statements

that are generally excluded,” and the only consideration is whether each statement in the

broader narrative is itself a statement against the declarant’s penal interest. 
Id.
 The

Court emphasized that a trial court “may not just assume[,] for purposes of” the rule,

       that a statement is self-inculpatory because it is part of a fuller confession,
       and this is especially true when the statement implicates someone else.
       “[T]he arrest statements of a codefendant have traditionally been viewed
       with special suspicion. Due to his strong motivation to implicate the
       defendant and to exonerate himself, a codefendant’s statements about what
       the defendant said or did are less credible than ordinary hearsay evidence.”

Id.
 at 601 (quoting Lee v. Illinois, 
476 U.S. 530, 541
 (1986)).

       As applied to Williamson’s case, the Court determined that while some portions of

Harris’s confession could be admissible under the Rule as sufficiently self-inculpatory,

others would not be, “especially the parts that implicated Williamson, [but] did little to

subject Harris himself to criminal liability.” 
Id. at 604
. Because the record demonstrated

that neither the trial court nor the Court of Appeals “inquired whether each of the

statements in Harris’ confession was truly self-inculpatory[,]” the Court remanded the

case to the Court of Appeals “to conduct this inquiry in the first instance.” 
Id.
 The Court

observed that a court’s analysis of each statement “can be a fact-intensive inquiry, which

. . . require[s] careful examination of all the circumstances surrounding the criminal

activity involved[.]” 
Id.


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       Justice Scalia concurred and wrote to expound his view that the statement against

penal interest exception may properly cover statements that inculpate both the declarant

and co-conspirator. 
Id.
 at 605–07 (Scalia, J., concurring). In his view,

       a declarant’s statement is not magically transformed from a statement
       against penal interest into one that is inadmissible merely because the
       declarant names another person or implicates a possible codefendant. For
       example, if a lieutenant in an organized crime operation described the inner
       workings of an extortion and protection racket, naming some of the other
       actors and thereby inculpating himself on racketeering and/or conspiracy
       charges, I have no doubt that some of those remarks could be admitted as
       statements against penal interest. Of course, naming another person, if
       done, for example, in a context where the declarant is minimizing
       culpability or criminal exposure, can bear on whether the statement meets
       the Rule 804(b)(3) standard. The relevant inquiry, however—and one that
       is not furthered by clouding the waters with manufactured categories such
       as “collateral neutral” and “collateral self-serving,” . . . must always be
       whether the particular remark at issue (and not the extended narrative)
       meets the standard set forth in the Rule.

Id.
 at 606–07 (emphasis in original).

                                        State v. Matusky

       Following Williamson, we returned to the issue of parsing in State v. Matusky, 
343 Md. 467
 (1996). We adopted Williamson and reconciled it with Standifur. In that case,

the respondent was charged with two counts of first-degree murder. 
Id. at 470
. His

codefendant had previously confessed to his fiancée that the respondent committed the

murder, but that he (the codefendant) was merely the getaway driver. 
Id. at 471
. While

the codefendant’s fiancée initially told police that the codefendant was with her for the

entire day of the murder, she recanted this statement and recounted the codefendant’s

statements to the police. 
Id.
     The respondent and the codefendant were ultimately

charged with two counts of first-degree murder. 
Id.
 At the respondent’s trial, the

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codefendant asserted his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination and, thus, was

an unavailable witness. 
Id.
 As a result, the trial court permitted the fiancée to testify as

to what the codefendant told her about the events in question, finding that the declaration

against penal interest exception applied. 
Id.
 at 471–72.

       The Appellate Court of Maryland reversed, reasoning that the trial court should

not have admitted the codefendant’s statement in its entirety because portions of the

statement were not self-inculpatory, especially those which identified the respondent as

the killer and discussed his motive. Matusky v. State, 
105 Md. App. 389, 403
 (1995).

We agreed with the Appellate Court’s analysis, affirmed its decision, and remanded the

case for a new trial. Matusky, 343 Md. at 475–76, 492.

       In our opinion, we relied heavily upon our opinion in Standifur, re-affirming the

framework that we outlined in that case. 
Id.
 at 479–83. We explained that the “final

inquiry” under Standifur’s declaration against penal interest analysis requires “that the

trial judge parse the entire declaration to determine which portions of it are directly

contrary to the declarant’s penal interest, and which collateral portions are so closely

related as to be equally trustworthy.” 
Id. at 482
. Applying this standard, we held that

“the trial court erroneously admitted [the fiancée]’s testimony in toto rather than

analyzing the declaration statement by statement to determine whether collateral portions

of [the codefendant’s] account should be redacted.” 
Id. at 485
. We explained that “the

trial court should have redacted those portions of [the codefendant’s] declaration

identifying [the respondent] as the murderer and suggesting [the respondent’s] motive for

the crime” because those “portions of the declaration did not directly incriminate” him

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and simply “serve[d] to shift blame from [the codefendant] to [the respondent].” 
Id.

Thus, “[b]ecause the trial court failed to properly analyze [the codefendant’s] hearsay

declaration,” we reversed the respondent’s convictions. 
Id.

       Because the respondent’s trial on remand would be governed by the newly

effective Maryland Rules, including Rule 8-403(b)(3), we also discussed Williamson.

Although we noted that it was merely persuasive authority insofar as it interpreted federal

evidentiary procedure, we “adopt[ed] it as part of Maryland law, in accord with a number

of other states.” 
Id.
 at 489–90. In adopting Williamson, we recognized that our Standifur

framework needed tweaking. We observed that “[t]he central distinction between the

Williamson approach and our approach in Standifur is that ‘proximity’ between the self-

inculpatory and ‘collateral’ portions no longer guarantee[d] admissibility.” 
Id. at 491
.

We recited with approval the Delaware Supreme Court’s observations in connection with

that court’s adoption of Williamson:

       [T]here is no theoretical basis for the admission of neutral, collateral
       statements. Hearsay statements are generally inadmissible. . . . A hearsay
       declaration is admissible, usually under a specific exception only where the
       declaration has some theoretical basis making it inherently trustworthy.
       See Ohio v. Roberts, 
448 U.S. 56, 63
 (1980). Thus, absent some special
       indicia of reliability and trustworthiness, hearsay statements are
       inadmissible. Neutral, collateral statements enjoy no such guarantees of
       reliability and trustworthiness. Williamson, 
512 U.S. at 600
.

Id.
 (emphasis in original) (some internal citations omitted) (quoting Smith v. State, 
647 A.2d 1083, 1088
 (Del. 1994)).

       Instead, in parsing each constituent portion of the larger narrative, “[t]he test for

admissibility to be applied to each statement within a declaration is whether a reasonable


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person in the declarant’s circumstances would have believed the statement was adverse to

his or her penal interest at the time it was made.” Id. at 492. Collateral proximity, in and

of itself, no longer suffices.

       Against this framework, we turn to the State’s preservation argument.

       C.      Parties’ Contentions

       The State argues that the Appellate Court erred by “creating an exception” to the

general rule that a defendant is required to request redaction in order to properly raise a

“failure to redact” claim on appeal. The State directs the Court to treatises reflecting the

general rule that when a party seeks redaction of a prior statement or piece of evidence,

the party must request one where a general objection is overruled. See Lynn S. McLain,

Maryland Evidence § 103:8 (3rd ed. 2013) (noting that “if one’s general objection is

overruled, one must request redaction of the objectionable part, in order to complain on

appeal of the court’s failure to redact”); Joseph F. Murphy, Jr. & Erin C. Murphy,

Maryland Evidence Handbook § 105[B] (5th ed. 2020) (advising practitioners that “[i]f

your objection gets overruled, request that the court exclude specific portions which

would easily be redacted”). The State points out that this Court applied this principle in

Woodlin v. State, 
484 Md. 253
 (2023), and the Appellate Court has applied it in Colkley

v. State, 
251 Md. App. 243
, 282–83 (2021), Belton v. State, 
152 Md. App. 623, 634

(2003), and Williams v. State, 
117 Md. App. 55, 68
 (1997).

       The State asserts that “[b]efore and during trial, defense counsel did not try to

obtain a lesser remedy by asking the circuit court to ‘parse’ the interview and redact

particular parts while admitting other parts.” The State asserts that because defense

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counsel failed to request redaction of those portions of the Blake Interview that he

contends were inadmissible, we should hold that he failed to preserve his objection to the

admissibility of the Blake Interview.

       According to the State, the Appellate Court erred by “creating an exception to the

general rule” by incorrectly interpreting Matusky as placing a duty on the trial court to

parse the narrative. The State also asserts that Matusky neither said that the trial court has

a duty to redact sua sponte, nor did it say that a trial court must parse the narrative upon

specific request. For this reason, the State asserts that this Court should “resolve this

issue the way Maryland courts have resolved similar areas of law, by requiring specific

preservation in order to preserve the failure-to-redact claim for appeal.” Because defense

counsel did not request that the trial court redact particular statements within the Blake

Interview, the State argues that Respondent failed to preserve his objection to the trial

court’s process for admitting the interview in its entirety.

       Respondent argues that the Appellate Court’s opinion did not create a new

preservation exception, and that it correctly recognized that the “general rule” espoused

by the State does not apply because Matusky governs the admission of this particular type

of hearsay evidence. Respondent points out that Matusky imposes a duty on the trial

court, which requires the court to parse each statement as part of the process for

determining the admissibility of hearsay statements comprising an extended narrative

when considering the declaration against penal interest exception.

       Respondent contends that the State interjects confusion into the analysis by

referring to the Blake Interview as a “statement,” as the trial court did, which makes it

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sound like one thing to be admitted or excluded. According to Respondent, following

this incorrect framework, the State erroneously characterizes this evidence, for

preservation purposes, as a “statement” or a “piece of evidence” for which Respondent

was obligated to seek redaction, instead of a series of statements, which, under this

Court’s case law, were required to be parsed by the trial court to determine which

statements were admissible. When considered within the correct framework, Respondent

asserts that it becomes clear that the cases cited by the State in support of a “general rule”

governing “prejudicial details of otherwise admissible evidence, as opposed to separately

inadmissible statements,” are not controlling.       Respondent contends that, under the

State’s argument, the Court would be creating a “new duty” upon “defense counsel to

conduct the trial court’s parsing for it.”

       D.     The Appellate Court Correctly Interpreted Our Case Law Concerning the
              Trial Court’s Duty to Parse an Extended Declaration Against Penal
              Interest

       We determine that the Appellate Court did not err in its analysis of Matusky, or in

holding that Respondent preserved his objection to the trial court’s failure to undertake

the parsing analysis required by our four-part test for determining whether this particular

type of hearsay evidence is admissible.

       As discussed above, Matusky established a process for admission that the trial

court is required to undertake when determining the admissibility of a hearsay statement

pursuant to the declaration against penal interest exception set forth in Maryland Rule 5-

804(b)(3). This test is unique to this particular type of hearsay evidence. The issue that

Respondent raised before the Appellate Court was the trial court’s failure to undertake

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the final step in the process. Specifically, when confronted with an extensive declaration,

narrative, or interview involving more than one “statement,” the trial court cannot treat

the declaration as a single “statement” that is to be admitted or not admitted as a whole

but is required to undertake a parsing analysis. Matusky makes clear that the “trial court

must break down the narrative and determine the separate admissibility of each ‘single

declaration or remark.’” 
343 Md. at 492
 (emphasis added). In doing so, Matusky further

mandates that “[t]he test for admissibility to be applied to each statement within a

declaration is whether a reasonable person in the declarant’s circumstances would have

believed the statement was adverse to his or her penal interest at the time it was made.”

Id.

       We are far from alone in imposing a duty upon the trial court to parse hearsay

narratives prior to the admission of purported statements against penal interest. The

federal circuits that have ruled on the issue after Williamson have held that the district

court has this duty. See, e.g., United States v. Mendoza, 
85 F.3d 1347, 1352
 (8th Cir.

1996) (“Williamson required the district court to examine each portion of [the] statement

to determine whether it tended to subject [the declarant] to criminal liability.”); United

States v. Castelan, 
219 F.3d 690, 694
 (7th Cir. 2000) (stating that under “Williamson, the

district court must consider whether each statement, not just the confession as a whole,

was truly self-inculpatory” (emphasis added)); United States v. Canan, 
48 F.3d 954, 959

(6th Cir. 1995) (stating that “when ruling upon a narrative’s admissibility under this rule,

a court must break it down and determine the separate admissibility of each ‘single

declaration or remark.’ This exercise is ‘a fact-intensive inquiry’ that requires ‘careful

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examination of all the circumstances surrounding the criminal activity involved’”

(quoting Williamson, 
512 U.S. at 599, 604
) (emphasis added)); United States v. Ojudun,

915 F.3d 875, 886
 (2d Cir. 2019) (holding that the district court erred by “not focus[ing]

on each of his statements individually to determine which of them would reasonably have

been viewed as so exposing him to criminal liability as to fall within Rule

804(b)(3)(A)”). Similarly, state supreme courts that have adopted Williamson have been

clear that the trial judge has the duty to remove non-self-inculpatory statements from the

longer narrative before its admission. See, e.g., Idaho v. Robins, 
431 P.3d 260, 275

(Idaho 2018); West Virginia v. Kaufman, 
711 S.E. 2d 607
, 622–23 (W. Va. 2011);

Minnesota v. Ford, 
539 N.W. 2d 214, 227
 (Minn. 1995); Massachusetts v. Marrero, 
800 N.E.2d 1048, 1050
 (Mass. 2003); Osborne v. Kentucky, 
43 S.W.3d 234, 241
 (Ky. 2001);

Washington v. Roberts, 
14 P.3d 713, 726
 (Wash. 2000).

       The State asserts that these cases do not address preservation and, therefore, are

not dispositive of the issue it presents here—whether defense counsel was required to

seek redaction of particular statements in order to preserve his objection that the trial

court failed to engage in the parsing process. Respondent agrees, but counters that it is

equally notable that, in all of the cases that the State cites, the appellate courts not only

considered the merits of the defense counsel’s objection, but they also failed to hold, or

even mention, that the opponent of the hearsay narrative had a duty to seek redaction in

order to raise the trial court’s failure to undertake the parsing process on appeal. We

agree with Respondent that if there was a duty on an opponent to seek redaction in order

to raise the trial court’s failure to undertake the parsing process appeal, there would be at

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least a whiff of such duty referenced in these cases. And in at least one instance, a

federal appellate court commented on the proponent’s failure to raise parsing.         See

Castelan, 
219 F.3d at 694
 (stating “[h]ere, the record is silent on whether the district

court considered whether each statement by [the declarant] introduced at trial was

genuinely self-inculpatory, and certainly the government never urged the district court to

parse [the declarant’s] statements as Williamson required” (emphasis added)).

       Of course, while we find these cases persuasive, we are not bound by them in

determining the preservation requirement here. Turning to the Maryland appellate cases

cited by the State, we disagree with the State that the general rule applied in those cases

compels us to hold that defense counsel has a duty to seek redaction to preserve an

objection to the trial court’s failure to undertake the admission process here. The cases

cited by the State involve different types of evidence with different admissibility

considerations.

       For example, Woodlin involved the admissibility of a prior sex offense under a

statute that authorizes its introduction provided certain safeguards are met. 15 
484 Md. 253
, 261–62 (2023). In that case, prior to trial, the State sought to admit portions of a

defendant’s guilty plea transcript concerning details of a prior sex offense. The defense

argued pre-trial that the prior conviction should not be admitted because the prior offense

was not sufficiently similar to the charged offense. 
Id.
 at 272–73. At trial, the defense

       15
         One of the safeguards is that “[t]he defendant had an opportunity to confront
and cross-examine the witness or witnesses testifying to the sexually assaultive
behavior[.]” Md. Code Ann., Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article § 10-923(e)(2)
(1984, 2021 Repl. Vol., 2022 Supp.).

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argued only that the admission of the conviction would violate his right to confrontation.

Id. at 275. On appeal, the defense argued for the first time that the admission of the plea

transcript was more prejudicial than probative because it contained inflammatory details

about the prior offense. We found the issue unpreserved because although the defense

had been provided with the plea transcript on multiple occasions, they had never raised

an issue about the unredacted transcript or objected to the scope of the evidence. Id. at

293–94.

       Under the statute in question, the General Assembly imported a balancing test

similar to the one found in Maryland Rule 5-403—which requires that the trial court

determine whether the probative value of the evidence is not substantially outweighed by

the danger of unfair prejudice. Id. at 277. We reviewed the trial court’s application of

the balancing test under an abuse of discretion standard.       Id. at 268.    Within this

context—judgment calls involving otherwise admissible evidence—it is logical to require

defense counsel to point out precisely what information he or she considers to be unduly

prejudicial.

       Belton v. State, 
152 Md. App. 623
 (2003) and Williams v. State, 
117 Md. App. 55

(1997), each involved the admission of prior inconsistent statements by a witness at trial

after the witness recanted on the stand. In Belton, the statements were admitted under

two hearsay exceptions: as a prior inconsistent statement and as an extrajudicial

identification, which the trial court admitted over defense counsel’s objection. 152 Md.

App. at 631–32. On appeal, the appellant asserted that the statements should not have

been admitted into evidence because they were not inconsistent with the witness’s trial

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testimony, and they did not qualify as an extrajudicial identification because they

consisted of “far more than a mere identification of appellant.” Id. at 631. The Appellate

Court held that the appellant had failed to preserve his objection of the admissibility of

the hearsay evidence by not requesting a redaction or limitation of the portion of the tape

that was played to the jury. Id.

       Similarly, in Williams, after a witness recanted on the stand, the prosecutor

introduced a “prior inconsistent statement” of the witness. 117 Md. App. at 67–68. On

appeal, the appellant argued that the portions of the witness’s statement that were

consistent with his trial testimony should not have been admitted. Id. In that context, the

Appellate Court determined that the “appellant made no objection below to the admission

of the statement due to the fact that it included consistent statements[,]” and likewise

“never asked the trial court to redact the portions of the statement appellant believed to be

prior consistent statements.” Id. at 68. The Appellate Court therefore determined that,

“even if error, it was not preserved.” Id.

       In Colkley v. State, during the appellant’s fifth murder trial (the first two trials

having been reversed, and the second two trials having resulted in mistrials), his counsel

objected to the State playing recordings of two co-conspirators’ prior testimony who were

both unavailable. 
251 Md. App. 243
, 278–79 (2021). The appellant’s objections related

to the “prejudicial nature” of both recordings and the inclusion of the phrase “ladies and

gentlemen of the jury” at the beginning of one of them. Id. at 283. The Appellate Court

determined that the appellant’s general objections to the admission of the recordings were

not preserved because he did not seek redaction of what he considered to be prejudicial

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statements within the context of hearsay statements that were otherwise admissible. The

Appellate Court concluded that the trial court did not abuse its discretion in failing to

redact the phrase “ladies and gentlemen of the jury”—the only phrase that the appellant

asked the trial court to exclude. Id. at 284.

       Simply put, these cases did not involve the type of evidence that is in dispute

here—an extensive hearsay narrative which is governed by a unique admissibility process

under our case law that a trial court is required to undertake prior to the admission of that

evidence. The trial court’s parsing requirement to determine the admissibility of hearsay

statements that comprise an extended narrative or interview based upon the declaration of

penal interest exception is unique to this type of hearsay evidence. And there is a good

reason for requiring that these types of statements undergo the rigor of such an analysis

prior to their admission, particularly when the statement inculpates not only the declarant,

but also a codefendant. As discussed above, we treat “as ‘inevitably suspect’ a statement

made to persons in authority and implicating a codefendant” because a “defendant

implicating his confederate may do so to curry favor with the authorities, to achieve a

plea bargain, to shift the blame by showing that another was more culpable, or simply to

have another with whom to share the blame.” 16 Standifur, 
310 Md. at 13
 (citations

omitted).


       16
         To support its position that statements against penal interest should be treated
the same as any other type of hearsay evidence, the Dissent relies upon State v. Grant,
776 N.W.2d 209
 (N.D. 2009). Dissent Op. at 12–14. In that case, the Supreme Court of
North Dakota analyzed certain hearsay statements recorded by a nurse practitioner and
their admissibility pursuant to North Dakota Rules of Evidence 803(4) (statements made

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       Like the Appellate Court, we determine that our case law does not impose a duty

upon the opponent of an extended narrative interview to present the trial court with

proposed redactions prior to the trial court undertaking its duty to parse the statement

pursuant to the process established by Matusky.

       The State identifies several policy reasons why this Court should place a duty on

the opponent of the admission of the hearsay narrative to present the court with specific

redactions of inadmissible statements. First, according to the State, the defense is far

more familiar with the facts of the case and, thus, is better able to parse the statement in

the first instance. Second, the State argues that “shifting the burden to the trial court”

will require the trial court to “read defense counsel’s mind” as to which specific parts

should be redacted. Third, the State points out that a narrative may be long, thereby

requiring the trial court to make “judgment calls” about each statement without “specific

input from the defendant.” The State argues that the failure to impose a duty on defense

counsel to provide a redacted narrative will promote gamesmanship by creating a


for medical diagnosis or treatment) and 803(6) (records of a regularly conducted
activity). Grant, 776 N.W.2d at 213–14. We do not find Grant’s discussion of those
hearsay exceptions persuasive here. As discussed herein, statements against penal
interest are unique and are treated as “inevitably suspect” for the reasons we described in
Standifur, 
310 Md. at 13
 (citations omitted). We further note that had this case arisen in
North Dakota, the Blake Interview would be inadmissible under that jurisdiction’s rules
of evidence, which provide that “[a] statement or confession offered against the accused
in a criminal case, made by a codefendant or other person implicating both the declarant
and the accused, is not within this exception.” N.D. R. Evid. 804(b)(3)(B) (emphasis
added); see also Editor’s Note, N.D. R. Evid. 804 (“Such statements may not be against
interest, and the area is one in which the constitutional rights of the defendant may
preclude their admission. Rather than proceed on a case-by-case basis, it was decided to
preclude admission of such statements entirely.”).

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disincentive for defense counsel to provide guidance to the trial court and hedge their bet

on an “all or nothing” approach to the admission of the evidence. We disagree and

further explain below how, if the Matusky process is undertaken correctly, these concerns

will be addressed and eliminated.

       E.      The Trial Court’s Duty and the Manner in Which Parsing Should Be
               Undertaken

       Where a proponent seeks the admission of presumptively inadmissible hearsay

under the declaration against penal interest exception, the proponent should present

evidence and argument to the trial court that: “(1) the declarant is unavailable, (2) the

statement is genuinely adverse to the declarant’s penal interest, and (3) corroborating

circumstances clearly indicate the trustworthiness of the statement.” Galicia, 
479 Md. at 359
. When presented with such a request, the trial court must analyze the admissibility

of a hearsay statement offered as a declaration against penal interest under the following

framework:

            (1) Unavailability. The trial court must find that the declarant is unavailable to
                testify at trial.

            (2) Penal Interest/Nature of the Statement as Whole. The trial court—
               considering “the content of the statement in the light of all known and
               relevant circumstances surrounding the making of the statement and all
               relevant information concerning the declarant”—must “determine whether
               the statement was in fact against the declarant’s penal interest and whether
               a reasonable person in the situation of the declarant would have perceived
               that it was against his penal interest at the time it was made.” Standifur,
               
310 Md. at 17
.

            (3) Reliability. The trial court must then “consider whether there are present
                any other facts or circumstances, including those indicating a motive to
                falsify on the part of the declarant, that so cut against the presumption of


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              reliability normally attending a declaration against interest that the
              statements should not be admitted.” 
Id.

          (4) Parsing. “When ruling upon the admission of a narrative under this rule, a
              trial court must break down the narrative and determine the separate
              admissibility of each single declaration or remark.            The test for
              admissibility to be applied to each statement within a declaration is whether
              a reasonable person in the declarant’s circumstances would have believed
              the statement was adverse to his or her penal interest at the time it was
              made.” Matusky, 
343 Md. at 492
 (cleaned up).

       As to the fourth step, the trial court “may not assume” “that a statement is self-

inculpatory because it is part of a fuller confession, and this is especially true when the

statement implicates someone else.” Williamson, 
512 U.S. at 601
. Moreover, “[n]eutral,

collateral statements enjoy no such guarantees of reliability and trustworthiness[]” and

are, therefore, not admissible “absent some special indicia of reliability and

trustworthiness[.]” Matusky, 
343 Md. at 491
 (quoting Smith, 
647 A.2d at 1088
).

       We agree with the Supreme Court’s observation that the trial court’s analysis of

each statement “can be a fact-intensive inquiry,” which requires “careful examination of

all the circumstances surrounding the criminal activity involved[.]” Williamson, 
512 U.S. at 604
.   Although we hold that the opponent has no duty to propose redactions of

statements contained in an extended narrative prior to the trial court undertaking the

process, that does not mean that either a proponent or an opponent of the narrative or

interview may not request redaction.         Moreover—addressing the State’s policy

concerns—a trial court has no obligation to consider the admissibility of the statements in

isolation or without soliciting input or requesting proposed redactions from both parties.

The trial court can look at the narrative with the parties present, consider input from the


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parties on each statement, and can request that the parties help redact individual

statements within the narrative. What the court cannot do is treat the narrative as a single

statement without considering whether each statement within it is in fact self-inculpatory

to the declarant. 17

       Indeed, if the trial court undertakes the process required by Matusky, it prevents

the concerns expressed by the State that a party will engage in gamesmanship by failing

to object or hedging their bets when the party thinks there may be a particular strategic

benefit by failing to object. We can envision circumstances in which the proponent of the

evidence argues that all of the statements are admissible and, conversely, an opponent

argues that none of the statements are admissible—which was done here. Because the

trial court is required to consider the admissibility of each statement within a narrative,

the process removes uncertainty on appeal. Once the trial court undertakes its duty and

parses the narrative to determine the admissibility of each statement, the party objecting

       17
           The Dissent asserts that our approach “risks taking control of the case away
from the parties, placing the court in a role usually filled by the advocates and potentially
undermining the parties’ abilities to put on their cases.” Dissent Op. at 6. Under the
Dissent’s view, the circuit court’s duty to parse “could limit the ability of the parties to
allow certain hearsay into evidence, and, in a criminal case, it could hamper a defendant’s
ability to put on a defense.” Id. at 8. We disagree. First, as outlined herein, the circuit
court is not required to undertake the parsing analysis without input from the parties or
proposed redactions by the parties. Nothing requires the parsing to be undertaken by the
court in isolation. Second, we are not suggesting that the circuit court is required to
exclude hearsay statements where the parties stipulate or agree to the statement’s or
statements’ admissibility. There may be good reasons for the defendant to want an
otherwise inadmissible statement to come into evidence. In such an instance, the
defendant can stipulate as to its admissibility. In other words, where the parties stipulate
or agree to the admissibility of a statement or statements, the court’s hands are not tied—
it is not required to supplant an agreement amongst the parties with its own admissibility
determination.

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to the admission of that statement, or any part of it, must still object to that statement. 18

In other words, nothing in our opinion should be construed as suggesting that traditional

waiver principles do not apply once the trial court undertakes the parsing process, or

where there is no objection to a trial court’s failure to undertake the parsing process in the

first instance. When the trial court considers each statement in connection with the

aforementioned duty, a party opponent’s failure to object to a statement’s admissibility

will be subject to traditional waiver principles.

       F.     Respondent Adequately Preserved His Challenge to the Hearsay Evidence
              at Issue

       Based upon our review of the record, we hold that Respondent adequately

preserved his objection to the trial court’s failure to undertake the process required for the

admission of this particular type of hearsay evidence.

       In the prosecutor’s motion to admit the evidence, he explained that the trial court

had to determine whether “the recorded interview” “qualifies as a statement against

interest.” Although the prosecutor correctly pointed out that the trial court was required

to undertake the parsing analysis required by Matusky, he did not attempt to explain how


       18
           We are unpersuaded by the State’s argument that there will be a risk of reversal
if the trial court makes judgment calls without imposing a duty on defense counsel to
provide redactions. As noted, the trial court may seek input, including proposed
redactions from both parties prior to making the admissibility determination. In doing so,
the trial judge will make the same judgment call that is necessarily required in any
instance when deciding whether the standard for admission has been satisfied. Whether
evidence is admissible under a hearsay exception is a legal conclusion reviewed de novo,
while any factual findings underpinning that legal conclusion are reviewed for clear error.
Gordon v. State, 
431 Md. 527, 538
 (2013). Where a trial judge makes an erroneous
judgment call in this context, it is subject to the harmless error analysis.

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each statement satisfied the admission standard.     Instead, the prosecutor treated the

narrative as a single statement—summarizing the 55-minute interview containing over

250 statements in a single paragraph:

      [W]ithin Mr. Blake’s statement, he describes in specific and nuanced detail
      how he would sell amounts of controlled dangerous substances and how the
      organization operated. This information included how much Mr. Blake was
      to be paid in the organization, that he was given a phone to use by the
      [Respondent] in order to received orders for controlled dangerous
      substances, how [Respondent] would coordinate drug transactions that Mr.
      Blake would effect, where the controlled dangerous substances came from,
      the amount of money for which Mr. Blake would sell certain amounts of
      controlled dangerous substances, and information related to the innerworkings of Defendant’s drug trafficking operation.

      Although the prosecutor mentioned the parsing requirement again, he urged the

court to admit the Blake Interview in its entirety because “the statements that contain

inculpating statements relating to Mr. Blake are so interwoven with the statements that

inculpate [Respondent] that they cannot be severed,” and also argued that the statements

could not “be sanitized and separated.”

      Defense counsel filed a response objecting to the introduction of the Blake

Interview.   One of defense counsel’s objections was that the claimed “interwoven”

statements were not against Mr. Blake’s interest and implicitly averred that they were

severable. The defense criticized the prosecution for “attempting . . . to get statements

made by [Mr. Blake] that implicate the defendant into evidence as if they are statements

against interest.” Defense counsel also parsed one of Mr. Blake’s statements to illustrate

that the statements were not “so interwoven.”




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       The circuit court considered the parties’ competing arguments at a pre-trial

hearing. The court noted that it had watched the 55-minute interview. The court asked

whether there was a “case on point” that addressed a scenario in which part of the

“statement” is “against [Mr. Blake’s] interest, but part of it is a statement against [Mr.

Smith’s] interest.”   The prosecutor admitted that “there are definitely parts of the

statement that are solely against [Mr. Blake’s] own interest and solely against

[Respondent’s] interest, but I think there is a lot of portions of the interview that the

statement is against both their interests simultaneously and they are so closely interwoven

that you couldn’t possibly separate the two.” The prosecutor then read part of Justice

Scalia’s concurrence in Williamson in support of his position that the entire Blake

Interview was admissible because the statements were so interwoven that they were not

severable. The prosecutor did not discuss any particular statement or statements or show

how they were self-inculpatory to Mr. Blake. It is clear that the prosecution was trying to

convince the trial court that the statements were not severable and that the Blake

Interview should simply be admitted into evidence in toto.

       Defense counsel continued objecting to the manner in which the State was

attempting to admit the Blake Interview.         In addition to arguing that Mr. Blake’s

statements were confusing because they were not connected to a particular time frame

and that his client would be prejudiced by his inability to cross-examine Mr. Blake,

defense counsel stated that he did not agree with the prosecution’s argument that the

statements were “so interwoven” that they inculpated both Mr. Blake and the



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Respondent. Defense counsel gave another example of a statement that would not be

self-inculpatory as to Mr. Blake:

       If this witness says my client did run a drug organization at some point,
       handed the reins over to Dwight Woods, and Dwight Woods took it over
       and then Dwight Woods started dealing drugs, which is why this
       investigation began, that’s what scares me.

Defense counsel made a similar argument in the context of reliability, stating:

       [Mr. Blake] can inculpate himself as much as he wants that the State’s
       argument [is] correct, most people who inculpate themselves tend to tell the
       truth when they do that. It’s when they push everything off on someone
       else, oh, I was just the low man on the totem pole, he was the one who got
       the drugs from Baltimore and brought them here.

       After hearing arguments of counsel, the trial court ruled that the Blake “statement”

could come in. In its ruling, the court treated the Blake Interview as one statement for

hearsay purposes, simply stating that “the Court would note that Justice Scalia’s

concurrence does seem to be on point. So the Court is going to grant the State’s request

to allow the statement to be heard.” It is clear that the trial court believed that it could

treat the statement as one piece of evidence that could be admitted and, thus, made its

ruling notwithstanding defense counsel’s attempts to explain how the statements were not

all self-inculpatory and so interwoven that they could not be separated.

       Defense counsel objected to the admission of the entirety of the Blake Interview

again during the trial, prior to the trial court admitting the interview. The circuit court

granted Mr. Smith a standing objection, but defense counsel noted that he was going to

object once again before the video of the interview was played to the jury, to ensure that

“everything is preserved.” When the prosecution moved to admit the Blake Interview


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into evidence, defense counsel again objected, which the circuit court overruled. Based

upon these objections, we determine that defense counsel adequately preserved his

argument that the trial court failed to undertake the process required by Matusky for

admission of this particular type of hearsay evidence.

                                             IV

                                        Conclusion

       For the foregoing reasons, we hold that the Appellate Court correctly determined

that Mr. Smith preserved his objection to the trial court’s failure to undertake the necessary

process required by our case law when considering the admission of hearsay statements

contained within an extended interview or narrative under the declaration against penal

interest exception. We affirm the judgment of the Appellate Court.

                                                   JUDGMENT OF THE APPELLATE
                                                   COURT AFFIRMED. COSTS TO
                                                   BE PAID BY PETITIONER.




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Circuit Court for Wicomico County
Case No.: C-22-CR-19-000554
Argued: May 6, 2024



                                      IN THE SUPREME COURT

                                            OF MARYLAND

                                                  No. 30

                                         September Term, 2023


                                        STATE OF MARYLAND

                                                    v.

                                           LAMONT SMITH


                                    Fader, C.J.
                                    Watts
                                    Booth
                                    Biran
                                    Gould
                                    Eaves
                                    Hotten, Michele D.
                                      (Senior Justice, Specially Assigned),

                                                  JJ.


                                     Dissenting Opinion by Biran, J.


                                     Filed: August 13, 2024
       Respectfully, I dissent.

       In its opinion, the Majority adopts a “unique” procedure that applies only to

admitting evidence under the statement-against-penal-interest exception to hearsay. Maj.

Op. at 3. Applying that procedure here, the Majority concludes that hearsay objections

implicating this exception are preserved as to every single statement in a recorded

55-minute interview that the State introduced at trial – even though the defense only

specifically objected to a single statement in the interview at trial and the trial court

sustained the objection. 1

       This is an odd result. In all other contexts, an objection to evidence must be made

when the evidence is offered (or as soon as the grounds for objection become apparent),

otherwise the objection is waived. Md. Rule 4-323(a). This means that a party opponent

generally must challenge particular hearsay statements, either by pointing them out to the

court or by raising an objection when they are offered as evidence. To be sure, a continuing

objection was secured at trial here, but this does not make the result less unusual.

Continuing objections only apply to matters “clearly” within their scope. Md. Rule

4-323(b). And the continuing objection here was based upon arguments the defense made




       1
        Like the Majority, I refer to this interview as the “Blake Interview.” At trial, the
defense argued that one statement in the Blake Interview, made by one of the officers
questioning Mr. Blake, should be stricken because it was hearsay within hearsay and “not
a statement against penal interest[,]” further explaining that “I just don’t want that
statement to come in.” In response to this specific objection, the circuit court ordered the
statement by the officer stricken and instructed the jury to disregard it.
at an earlier motion in limine hearing, where the defense similarly did not point the circuit

court to any specific statement in the Blake Interview.

       The Majority does not explain why the traditional procedure for objections – which

continues to apply to all other objections grounded in hearsay and its other exceptions – is

inadequate in the context of statements against penal interest, nor does the Majority name

any benefits that would come with adopting a different process “that uniquely applies only

to this particular type of hearsay evidence.” Maj. Op. at 21 (emphasis in original). Because

I perceive that the Majority’s procedure has several drawbacks and provides no

corresponding benefits, I would instead apply our traditional preservation analysis and hold

that the hearsay objections here were not preserved.

   A. The Legal Framework of Hearsay and Preservation

       Hearsay is “a statement, other than one made by the declarant while testifying at the

trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.” Md. Rule 5-

801(c). Hearsay is presumptively inadmissible, and a hearsay statement only will be

admitted if it falls within an exception to the hearsay rule. See Md. Rule 5-802. Of course,

there are also “a myriad of exceptions” to the rule, Maj. Op. at 22, one of which concerns

statements against penal interest. These are statements that “so tend[] to subject the

declarant to ... criminal liability ... that a reasonable person in the declarant’s position

would not have made the statement unless the person believed it to be true.” Md. Rule

5-804(b)(3). 2


       2
        For a statement to be admissible under Maryland Rule 5-804(b)(3) as against the
declarant’s penal interest, the proponent of the evidence must demonstrate “(1) the

                                             2
       Of course, not all statements that tend to subject a declarant to criminal liability are

truly statements against penal interest. For instance, a declarant may admit some

responsibility in the course of trying to pass greater responsibility onto somebody else.

Although some commentators advocate generally admitting all those collateral statements

too, see 5 J. Wigmore, Evidence in Trials at Common Law § 1465, at 339-41 (Chadbourn

rev. 1974 & 1996 Supp.), I agree with the Majority that a more nuanced analysis applies in

Maryland. Specifically, our analysis requires “separat[ing] the self-serving from the

disserving portions of the declaration ..., excluding only the self-serving portions.” State v.

Matusky, 
343 Md. 467, 479
 (1996). That is not to say that no collateral statements can come

in under the hearsay exception, but such collateral statements must be “so closely

connected” with a statement against penal interest “as to be equally trustworthy[.]” State

v. Standifur, 
310 Md. 3, 17
 (1987).

       As the Majority correctly notes, we assess hearsay and its exceptions at the

statement level, meaning that different statements within a larger narrative will not

necessarily be treated the same way in a hearsay analysis. Thus, a trial court generally

cannot shortcut the analysis by lumping multiple statements together in a larger narrative

and making only a narrative-level ruling on hearsay. Likewise, in analyzing a particular

statement, a trial court cannot refuse to consider context for the statement that is provided

elsewhere in the larger narrative. Thus, we have said that a “trial judge [must] parse the



declarant is unavailable, (2) the statement is genuinely adverse to the declarant’s penal
interest, and (3) corroborating circumstances clearly indicate the trustworthiness of the
statement.” State v. Galicia, 
479 Md. 341, 359
 (2022).


                                              3
entire declaration to determine which portions of it are directly contrary to the declarant’s

penal interest, and which collateral portions are so closely related as to be equally

trustworthy.” Matusky, 
343 Md. at 482
.

       In practice, as hearsay and its exceptions are assessed at trial, a party opposing the

admission of hearsay must generally object as the evidence is offered, objecting to each

question that is posed to elicit objectionable hearsay or to each answer that contains it. See

State v. Robertson, 
463 Md. 342, 366
 (2019); see also Kelly v. State, 
392 Md. 511, 541

(2006) (“[I]t is incumbent upon the State to make the objections to the testimony as it is

elicited by the defense.”). Although a party may also object to an entire line of questioning

by seeking a continuing objection, Robertson, 
463 Md. at 366
 (“[A] party should object to

each question or assert a continuing objection to an entire line of questioning.”), a

continuing objection is effective only as to “questions clearly within its scope.” Md. Rule

4-323(b).

       Requiring a proper objection serves multiple functions. The objection is the

mechanism for a party to hold the proponent of evidence to its burden. See Curtis v. State,

259 Md. App. 283
, 314 (2023) (“The proponent of the evidence bears the burden of proving

that the statement, and the circumstances under which it was made, fall within the confines

of an applicable [hearsay] exception.”). The objection also preserves the evidentiary issue

for appellate review. See Md. Rule 5-103(a)(1) (noting that a party cannot assert error

unless they were prejudiced by a ruling admitting evidence and either made “a timely

objection or motion to strike” on the record); Young v. State, 
234 Md. App. 720, 740
 (2017)

(admitted evidence can only create an appellate issue if “a timely objection or motion to


                                              4
strike appears of record”) (cleaned up). Conversely, without a timely objection, evidence

may come in that otherwise would not, see Kelly, 
392 Md. at 532
 (“[H]earsay is only

excluded upon an objection to it.”), and the evidentiary issue generally will not be

preserved for appellate review. See Md. Rule 8-131(a); Taylor v. State, 
381 Md. 602, 614

(2004) (“Even errors of Constitutional dimension may be waived by failure to interpose a

timely objection at trial[.]”) (cleaned up).

       This usual procedure benefits the trial court, the parties, and our judicial system. By

requiring timely objections to preserve evidentiary issues, trial objections will generally

occur at the statement level, “allow[ing] the trial court to prevent mistakes or cure them in

real time.” Hall v. State, 
225 Md. App. 72, 89
 (2015) (internal quotation marks and citation

omitted). By requiring the parties to bring issues to the trial court’s attention, our traditional

preservation procedure ensures that other parties and the court can consider and respond to

challenges, a proper record will be made, and the trial court will have a fair opportunity to

correct its errors and to ask for more information about objections to particular questions

or statements. See Malarkey v. State, 
188 Md. App. 126, 157
 (2009). Requiring timely

objections also promotes fairness by preventing parties from “treating the trial as a sport”

by waiting to object “until it may be too late for the other party to recover[.]” Hall, 
225 Md. App. at 89
 (internal quotation marks and citation omitted); see also Bruce v. State, 
328 Md. 594, 628
 (1992) (“Counsel cannot wait to see whether the answer is favorable before

deciding whether to object.”) (citation omitted).

       Moreover, the usual procedure ensures that the parties have the freedom to pursue

their case strategies, and – when they opt to challenge the admission of evidence – that they


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will be motivated to present their best evidentiary arguments to the court. In the hearsay

context, objections generally will be required at the statement (or question) level, ensuring

that the hearsay analysis naturally proceeds statement-by-statement. For each statement or

potential statement, the opponent will be able to decide whether to simply allow the

statement in, or whether to object and, if necessary, explain why they believe the statement

or question is improper. Absent objection, the trial court generally will allow the parties to

put on their cases as they see fit. And when there is an objection, the trial court has the

benefit of timely argument at the statement level to inform its evidentiary rulings.

   B. The Majority’s Approach Upends the Traditional Procedure, Creating the
      Potential for Problems Without Providing Any Benefits.

       The Majority’s novel approach toward preservation in this case creates new

problems, without providing any new benefits. Under the Majority’s new procedure, a

party need only make a single, general challenge to a narrative as a whole by claiming that

it contains hearsay that does not fall within the statement-against-penal-interest exception.

In response, the court then must parse the entire narrative and exclude any statements that

do not fall within that exception. Maj. Op. at 40-41. A harmless error analysis will apply

at the appellate level, but apparently only if the circuit court satisfies its duty to parse the

narrative and sua sponte make “judgment calls” at the statement level about whether to

exclude qualifying hearsay. Maj. Op. at 45 n.18. And regardless, as with all hearsay

determinations, each of the circuit court’s statement-level rulings will be subject to de novo

review. As a result, this new procedure has several drawbacks:




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       First, the Majority’s procedure risks taking control of the case away from the

parties, placing the court in a role usually filled by the advocates and potentially

undermining parties’ abilities to put on their cases. The Majority concludes that circuit

courts have an independent duty to review narratives and exclude hearsay that does not fall

within the statement-against-penal-interest exception. But by imposing this duty on trial

courts, the Majority’s analysis impinges upon an important power that ordinarily belongs

to the parties: the power not to object to certain inadmissible hearsay.

       Hearsay is frequently allowed into evidence, and there are times when the parties

affirmatively want it to come in. See Carter v. Aramark Sports & Ent. Servs., Inc., 
153 Md. App. 210, 231
 (2003) (“[M]uch hearsay, even inadmissible hearsay, is relevant and

material.”) (quoting United States v. Spiller, 
261 F.3d 683, 689-90
 (7th Cir. 2001)); see

also Kelly, 
392 Md. at 532
 (“[H]earsay is only excluded upon an objection to it. It may be

very relevant.”). Among other things, hearsay can provide helpful background as well as

important context to other statements in a larger narrative. 3




       3
         In this same vein, many attorneys routinely choose not to object to objectionable
evidence, including hearsay, when the evidence does not appear to be harmful. See, e.g.,
Steven Lubet, Objecting, 
16 Am. J. Trial Advoc. 213
, 220 (1992) (“When considering
whether to object, counsel should always ask: ‘Will the exclusion of the evidence
contribute to my theory[?]’ ... ‘Do not object to anything that doesn’t hurt you.’”); Jonathan
J. O’Konek, To Object or Not Object, That is the Question: A Criminal Law Practitioner’s
Guide to the “Five Ws” of Evidentiary Objections, 
95 N.D. L. Rev. 155
, 178 (2020) (“[I]f
opposing counsel simply asks a question which elicits hearsay, but is not harmful to the
practitioner’s case, he or she should not object.”).


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       Additionally, and more to the point here, some inadmissible hearsay in an interview

introduced by the State may well help the defense. 4 Consider repeated efforts by a declarant

to pass off responsibility that ends up casting doubt on the declarant’s own credibility, or

that suggests an alternative suspect who appears to be more culpable. A defendant may

well decide not to object to that sort of hearsay. But under the Majority’s procedure, the

circuit court would have a duty to exclude such hearsay during a parsing review. The

Majority notes that a party could stipulate to the admissibility of a statement that was

excluded during parsing, which would serve a similar function to not objecting to the

statement under our traditional procedure for other hearsay exceptions. However, although

the Majority explains that a court is “not required to supplant an agreement amongst the

parties with its own admissibility determination[,]” Maj. Op. at 44 n.17, the Majority seems

to leave open the possibility that the court may decide to carry out its duty to exclude

qualifying hearsay by rejecting such a stipulation. This possibility could limit the ability of

the parties to allow certain hearsay into evidence, and, in a criminal case, it could hamper

a defendant’s ability to put on a defense.

       Second, the Majority’s approach is likely to cause confusion in our trial courts. In

essence, the Majority expands a circuit court’s duties. A circuit court must rule upon

hearsay issues generally, but now it must also identify and rule upon certain hearsay issues.



       4
         Indeed, defense counsel here perceived that some of the statements in the Blake
Interview were exculpatory of Mr. Smith. Thus, defense counsel told the motions court:
“I’ll be honest with Your Honor, I spent a lot of time going back and forth as to whether I
should just allow this in.... I went back and forth.”


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Usually, identifying evidentiary issues and requesting a ruling is a task for the parties. It is

unclear how much the Majority is changing that usual division of responsibility. The

Majority opinion is clear enough that, once the duty to parse is triggered, a circuit court

must review a larger narrative in detail and sua sponte exclude hearsay statements that

implicate but do not satisfy the against-penal-interest exception. However, the Majority

opinion does not explain how far courts should go in parsing these narratives and excluding

hearsay. For instance, when courts notice hearsay during parsing that does not seem to

implicate the against-penal-interest exception, must they sua sponte exclude it too? 5 What

if the against-penal-interest exception is implicated, fails, the statement at issue is redacted

by the court, but another hearsay exception might arguably apply? Must trial courts review




       5
          For instance, one could imagine hearsay statements in an interview that a court
(especially without input from the defense) would conclude do not relate to matters of
culpability/penal interest. These sorts of statements might simply be garden variety
hearsay, they might fall within some other hearsay exception, or, if they do implicate penal
interest, the court might not know enough about the case to understand that to be so. The
Majority indicates that the “parsing requirement” only applies to “hearsay statements ...
based upon the declaration of penal interest exception[.]” Maj. Op. at 40. So, as I
understand it, the Majority seems to be saying that trial courts should affirmatively
determine whether to exclude hearsay in a narrative only if that hearsay implicates the
against-penal-interest exception, and should otherwise leave potential hearsay alone
(unless a party requests specific redactions). But there also appears to be room for differing
interpretations of the Majority’s language and fact-specific views about whether the
against-penal-interest exception is implicated. Plus, the idea that trial courts should parse
narratives to independently exclude only some types of hearsay could be challenging to put
in practice, especially when more than one potential hearsay exception could be implicated
by a given statement. See Aetna Cas. & Sur. Co. v. Kuhl, 
296 Md. 446
, 456 & 456 n.2
(1983) (noting, in a case with multiple defendants, “the all too common error of failing to
distinguish between an admission and a declaration against interest” with respect to hearsay
determinations).


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even clearly irrelevant portions of lengthy interviews to exclude hearsay, or can they focus

their limited time on only those portions that seem potentially relevant?

       Third, placing the duty on the court both to identify and rule upon certain evidentiary

issues creates troubling incentives. A party could, in theory, have an incentive to

manipulate the procedure created by the Majority by: (1) making a general objection to a

lengthy narrative (as to all hearsay in the narrative that is not against penal interest) at a

motion in limine hearing; and (2) during the parsing process, arguing to exclude those

hearsay statements that seem actually disadvantageous, and strategically providing no help

in identifying any other specific hearsay statements that should be excluded. This would

allow the party to minimize the chances that damaging statements will be admitted into

evidence, while also maximizing the chances that the court will mistakenly admit hearsay

that seems less damaging. Then, at trial, if the party can secure a continuing objection to

the narrative on the basis discussed at the motion in limine hearing, it will create an

appellate issue out of every hearsay statement erroneously admitted – regardless of whether

the party included any argument on those statements or even mentioned them during the

motion in limine hearing. 6

       Fourth, the Majority’s approach is not a good use of judicial resources. Our

traditional procedure incentivizes the parties to hone their disputes for the circuit court to



       6
        To be clear, the record of this case in no way suggests that the defense was
attempting to game its hearsay challenges to create appellate issues or was attempting to
mislead the motions court into treating the Blake Interview as an all-or-nothing question
of admission for tactical reasons.


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resolve, and it tends to require evidentiary rulings only about statements that the parties

genuinely dispute. However, the Majority’s approach requires the circuit court to review

lengthy narratives in the first instance and make rulings about every statement within. The

onus is also on the circuit court to coordinate with the parties when questions inevitably

arise, including fundamental (and difficult) questions concerning the scope of the circuit

court’s duty to sua sponte exclude certain hearsay statements but not others. Challenging

hearsay questions might not even be important to a case, but the Majority’s procedure

requires our circuit courts to address such questions anyway. In effect, lengthy narratives

that implicate the against-penal-interest hearsay exception are transformed into homework

assignments for our circuit courts.

       Additionally, because the Majority’s approach also creates an incentive for a party

to avoid being helpful – especially when a given hearsay statement does not seem

particularly damaging – the Majority’s approach will discourage continuing objections at

trial. That is, courts will be naturally less inclined to grant continuing objections to hearsay

issues that were decided at the in limine stage, because the party opposing the statements

might never have brought any particular statements to the circuit court’s attention or made

specific arguments at the statement level. Thus, the Majority’s approach also hampers a

mechanism that saves time and makes trials less cumbersome.

       Given these downsides, one might expect the Majority to explain why its unique

approach to preservation in this context is warranted. The Majority’s explanation, to the

extent it provides one, is unconvincing. The Majority acknowledges the “general rule” in

Maryland that an opponent must seek specific redaction when its general objection to a


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narrative is overruled. The Majority then observes that the cases applying this general rule

“involve different types of evidence with different admissibility considerations[,]” Maj.

Op. at 37, rather than “the type of evidence that is in dispute here – an extensive hearsay

narrative which is governed by a unique admissibility process under our case law[.]” Maj.

Op. at 40. True enough. However, the Majority does not explain why the process that this

Court spelled out in Matusky for deciding the admissibility of such a narrative requires a

different approach as to preservation. Rather, the Majority appears to assume that this

approach to preservation already exists in our case law. Thus, in essence, the Majority’s

reasoning seems to be that there is a unique approach to preservation here because our case

law has created one, regardless of whether such an approach makes sense.

       As the State points out, none of the cases that concern the resolution of hearsay

containing statements against penal interest involved preservation, and the Majority

acknowledges as much. See Maj. Op. at 36. Nevertheless, the Majority responds that – even

though the cases did not involve preservation – “there would be at least a whiff of [a duty

to redact] referenced in these cases” if the opponent of evidence was required to make

objections at the statement level for this hearsay exception. Maj. Op. at 36-37. I do not find

the silence in the cases as significant as the Majority. From my review of the cases, I see

no indication that anyone raised the issue of preservation. In any event, even if some trial

courts have conducted the parsing inquiry in the absence of any request from the opponent

of the evidence to redact specific portions of the narrative, the Majority here for the first

time says that circuit courts must do so. Because there are several downsides to this

approach, I would instead apply the “general rule” that the Majority recognizes: an


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opponent of evidence in Maryland typically must make specific evidentiary objections

when its general objection fails, pointing out to the court which portions of a narrative or

other evidence should be excluded. The proponent of the evidence will then be held to its

burden. The Majority provides no sound reason why this particular type of hearsay

warrants a different approach to preservation.

       The other side of the coin is the Majority’s failure to explain why its approach to

preservation is not appropriate for other types of hearsay evidence. In this regard, State v.

Grant, 
776 N.W.2d 209
 (N.D. 2009), is instructive. Grant was accused of sexually abusing

his young daughter, K.D.J. After the allegations came to light, K.D.J. was examined by a

nurse practitioner, who created a report of her findings. 
Id. at 211
. That report included

statements made by K.D.J. and her grandmother, among others. 
Id.
 The report included

information documenting K.D.J.’s medical history and also reported statements that K.D.J.

made to the nurse practitioner about the alleged abuse. 
Id.
 One of the grandmother’s

statements contained in the report concerned Grant: “[The grandmother] is not sure of what

Dale Grant’s (biologic father) health history is. She states that there is drug use but she is

unsure of any other history.” 
Id.

       At a pretrial hearing, the State informed the defense and the court that it planned to

offer the nurse practitioner’s examination report into evidence. 
Id. at 212
. The defense did

not raise any objection at the pretrial hearing concerning the report; however, the defense

objected to the admission of the report in its entirety at trial, arguing that the report

contained hearsay that was not admissible under any exception to North Dakota’s hearsay

rule. 
Id.
 With respect to the exception for statements made for the purpose of medical


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diagnosis, N.D. R. Evid. 803(4), defense counsel contended that the report should not be

admitted because it “goes far beyond what’s necessary for a diagnosis.” Grant, 
776 N.W.2d at 212
. The trial court admitted the entire report over objection. 
Id.
 Grant was convicted.

       On appeal, Grant challenged the admission of the nurse practitioner’s report. The

North Dakota Supreme Court affirmed. The Court concluded that many of the statements

contained in the report fell under the exception for statements made for the purpose of

medical diagnosis. 
Id. at 214-16
. However, with respect to the grandmother’s statement

about Grant’s drug use, the Court said:

       Grant’s past drug use was arguably not relevant to K.D.J.’s diagnosis and
       treatment even if made in response to [the nurse practitioner’s] questioning.
       Grant could have requested the State redact this particular statement, and
       he had ample opportunity to do so at the pretrial hearing and trial. By failing
       to request redaction, but rather requesting this Court overturn the criminal
       judgment, Grant needlessly made the issue an all-or-nothing proposition.
       Under the deferential standard of review for evidentiary matters, we decline
       to overturn the district court’s decision to admit the entire nurse practitioner’s
       report on the basis of this single questionable statement. The normal remedy
       for an otherwise admissible document containing inappropriate information
       is redaction.

Id. at 216
 (emphasis added).

       Under the “general rule” that applies in Maryland concerning preservation, if the

same situation arose in Maryland, the result would be the same as it was in Grant. Like

statements contained in a police interview of a suspect analyzed for admissibility under the

against-penal-interest exception, some statements in a healthcare provider’s report may fall

within the hearsay exception for statements made for purposes of medical diagnosis or

treatment, Md. Rule 5-803(b)(4), and some may not. If the trial court overrules a blanket

hearsay objection to admission of the report – meaning that the court has determined that


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at least some portion of the report is properly admissible – the trial court has no duty on its

own initiative to review the report to determine whether there are any statements in the

report that should be redacted because they do not fall under the Rule 5-803(b)(4)

exception. However, if the opponent requests redactions, the trial court must consider and

rule on those requests. If this general rule works for Rule 5-803(b)(4) – and for the many

other situations in which some portions of proffered evidence may be admissible and others

may be inadmissible – I see no logical reason, and the Majority has offered no such reason,

why the general rule should not be applied when the evidentiary issue involves a narrative

containing some statements that may be against the declarant’s penal interest and other

statements that may not fall within that exception. 7 Moreover, by not explaining why its

new approach is appropriate only for the against-penal-interest exception to hearsay, the

Majority appears to leave open the possibility that it will eventually be extended to other

analogous situations and hearsay exceptions like those at issue in Grant, causing Maryland

courts to reach a different result in the future.

       In my view, the Majority misinterprets Matusky to mean that a trial court must

engage in the parsing inquiry whether or not the opponent wants the court to do so, and

whether or not the opponent has identified which parts of the narrative should be redacted.



       7
          There is no logical connection between the suspicion we generally attach to
suspects’ statements to authorities and what a party should be required to do to preserve an
objection to any particular out-of-court statement being admitted into evidence. While the
tests that govern the application of specific hearsay exceptions vary depending on the types
of hearsay at issue, it does not logically follow that the procedure regarding preservation
should vary depending on the type of hearsay at issue.


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The four-part test stated in Matusky provides a step-by-step approach to resolve disputes

about what can be a very complicated hearsay determination: which parts of a declarant’s

narrative containing multiple statements are against the declarant’s penal interest and

which parts are not. The key word in the preceding sentence is “disputes.” Implicit in the

Matusky procedure is that there is an actual dispute between the parties as to whether any

particular statement should be admitted or excluded. The only way a trial court knows if

any statements are actually in dispute and, if so, which ones they are, is if the opponent

objects on a statement-by-statement basis. Once the opponent does so, the duty to engage

in parsing under Matusky arises. 8

   C. The Majority’s Attempt to Conform Its Approach to the Traditional
      Requirement of Preservation Does Not Solve Its Problems.

       Perhaps realizing that its novel approach to this hearsay exception has downsides,

the Majority attempts to walk it back in several respects. However, none of these attempts

fully solves the new approach’s problems, and they still leave troubling incentives in place.




       8
         Seemingly implicit in the Majority’s approach is the notion that, when a trial court
overrules a party’s blanket objection to a narrative being admitted as a statement against
penal interest, the party will always believe that one or more of the individual statements
in the narrative constitutes inadmissible hearsay and will want to have one or more of those
statements excluded. But that may not always be the case. It may be that, after losing a
blanket objection, the opponent will want all of the statements in the narrative to come in,
rather than parsing the narrative. Perhaps the material that is helpful to the party will be
contained only in statements that are inadmissible and all of the damaging material will be
contained in the parts that are admissible. In other words, a party sometimes may prefer an
all-or-nothing approach. Regardless, after a blanket objection is overruled, the general rule
places the burden on the opponent to tell the trial court which parts of a narrative containing
potentially inadmissible material the opponent is challenging, which is merely the flip side
of telling the court which statements the opponent stipulates to being admitted.


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The Majority’s efforts to allay concern only show that its “unique” approach is

unnecessary.

       To defend its approach, the Majority emphasizes that it will not be so different from

the traditional, familiar approach to other hearsay exceptions and other evidentiary issues.

The Majority states that the circuit court may replicate, in part, the traditional approach by

asking the parties to help determine whether hearsay is covered by the against-penal-

interest exception, and by requesting proposed redactions from the parties. See Maj. Op. at

43-44 & 44 n.17. Alternatively, the parties can wait until the court has finished parsing and

then decide whether to object to statements ruled admissible and stipulate to the admission

of statements ruled inadmissible. Regardless, after the circuit court reviews an entire

narrative for hearsay and decides which statements to admit, the opponent must still object

at trial to the statements, as parsed, coming into evidence in order to preserve the issue.

Maj. Op. at 44-45. Thus, according to the Majority, the trial court ultimately “will make

the same judgment call,” Maj. Op. at 45 n.18, that it would make if the opponent of the

evidence had the onus to object (i.e., request redactions) on a statement-by-statement basis

after the opponent’s blanket objection was overruled.

       But these justifications provide more questions than answers. For starters, it is

unclear why the Majority believes that the onus should be on the circuit court to ask for

help in redacting hearsay related to the against-penal-interest exception, while at the same

time the opponent of evidence must affirmatively provide their positions, statement-by-

statement, when other hearsay exceptions (or other issues requiring excluding evidence)

are implicated. It is also unclear why the Majority believes that the circuit court should go


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through the extra effort of assessing hearsay across entire narratives, when the Majority at

the same time believes that the process will ultimately be driven by stipulations and

statement-level objections at trial and result in the same judgment calls anyway. Thus, the

Majority’s approach is puzzling. It adopts a new approach to preservation that applies only

to one hearsay exception, fails to explain why the approach better adjudicates disputes

about that exception, and then justifies its approach by arguing that it is not so different

from traditional practice – or, at least, that it can be adapted to produce the same results as

traditional practice with additional effort. If all that is true, why create a new approach?

       Moreover, as discussed above, this new approach brings with it predictable

problems, despite the Majority’s efforts to conform its approach to traditional practice.

Notwithstanding a trial court engaging in parsing, a defendant could create back-pocket

appellate issues by keeping their assistance vague at the motion in limine stage whenever

a given statement did not seem particularly damaging, and then requesting a continuing

objection at trial on the basis of the general in limine objection. After this, the defendant

would be assured that their hearsay objections were preserved as to every statement,

leaving them free to object at trial only to statements that seemed truly harmful to the case

– and to remain silent for all the other statements, saving them as appellate issues if the

trial did not go their way.

       And, if a hearsay statement implicates (but does not satisfy) the against-penal-

interest exception, then a defendant who wanted to allow the hearsay statement into

evidence without objection would need to stipulate to the statement’s admissibility. Then,

it appears, the court could decide whether to honor that stipulation, or instead to exclude


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such hearsay anyway. Given that the Majority recognizes “[t]here may be good reasons for

the defendant to want an otherwise inadmissible statement to come into evidence,” Maj.

Op. at 44 n.17, it is not clear why the Majority does not apply our normal preservation

approach to this context. Our general rule allows the defendant (or the State, if it is the

party whose blanket objection has been overruled) effectively to stipulate to those

statements in a narrative they want to be admitted by asking for the other statements to be

redacted. The Majority’s contrary approach, in my view, is inefficient and ill-advised.

       Here, after the motions court overruled Mr. Smith’s blanket objection to admission

of the Blake Interview, Mr. Smith did not request that any individual statements in the

Blake Interview be redacted, nor did he otherwise object to the admission of any of the

individual statements in the Blake Interview at trial (except for objecting to one statement

by an officer, which led the trial court to strike that statement). Under Maryland’s

longstanding and consistent approach regarding preservation, Mr. Smith failed to preserve

any objection to the admission of the individual statements in the Blake Interview. I would

affirm his convictions.




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