¶1The opinion of the Court was delivered by
¶2The testimony of John Harrison was improperly excluded. The action is brought by a judgment creditor of the intestate against his administrator and a senior judgment creditor to set aside such senior judgment as fraudulent and void, so as to let in the junior judgment to a priority. The fitness, John Harrison, was a distributee of the intestate, and, therefore, has, in legal contemplation, an interest in the event of the suit; for if the judgment is set aside, assets to a corresponding amount will be liberated and become disposable for payment of debts or distribu*280tion. He was called by the plaintiff for the purpose of invalidating the judgment. It is alleged, however, that the estate was insolvent, and contended that for that reason he was destitute of interest. Had the insolvency been judicially ascertained, as between the parties, so as to estop them from inquiry into the fact, a different question from the present one would have been presented, which we need not consider. It is enough to hold that, as a question of fact, insolvency could not be determined as an incident merely to the question of the interest of the witness in the event of the suit. Such a proceeding would be without precedent and incompatible with orderly procedure in trials of issues of fact, and it is not to be assumed that the Legislature intended such a qualification of its language.
¶3The language of the statute excludes “any person who has a legal interest which may be affected by the event of the action.” It need not appear that such interest will be so affected. It is the possibility of such an effect to which the law looks, and not to what will ultimately prove to be the effect on such interest. This language is substantially repeated in the same Section and with the same effect.
¶4The subject of the testimony was “ conversations and transactions” between the deceased and the third party, and the objection to the testimony came from the administratrix of the deceased, whose conversations and transactions were the subject of the testimony offered.
¶5The testimony offered was as to “ conversations and transactions between his brother, [witness’s brother] William H. Harrison, and his father, the said Thomas E. Harrison, relative to the causes which led to the confession of judgment made by Thomas E. Harrison to William H. Harrison.” The statute excludes “ any transactions or communications between such witness and a person at the time of such examination, deceased, &c.”
¶6We have only the bare offer of proof and must act on it as it stands. It does not necessarily follow, from the statement of the proof offered, that the subject-matter was a transaction or communication between the witness and the deceased. For all that appears, the presence of the witness at the time and place of the conversation may have been unknown to the parties between whom the transactions or conversations took place, so that he cannot be regarded as having necessarily taken any part in such conversation with the deceased.
¶7*281While we cannot determine whether in point of fact the witness was competent as it regards the undisclosed testimony he had to give, we are satisfied that the offer of testimony was not sufficient to raise a question of his competency.
¶8There must be a new trial.