Âś1I dissent.
Âś2I
Âś3I agree with the conclusion in part I of the majority opinion that the statements made to Sergeant Demkowski were obtained by him in violation of appellantâs Miranda rights because appellant did not waive them. (Miranda v. Arizona (1966) 384 U.S. 436, 473-476 [16 L.Ed.2d 694, 722-724, 86 S.Ct. 1602, 10 A.L.R.3d 974].) I also agree with the conclusion in part I that âthe *504trial courtâs determination that there was no Mirandaviolation was indeed palpably erroneous.â
Âś4It is next held in part I that the trial court committed âstate law error under Disbrowâ in permitting the prosecution evidence of the âunlawfully obtained statements of appellantâ for the purpose of impeachment (see People v. Disbrow (1976) 16 Cal.3d 101, 111-113 [127 Cal.Rptr. 360, 545 P.2d 272]), but that the error was harmless. I agree that there was Disbrowerror. Given the conceded âcloseness of this caseâ (the majorityâs description), I do not agree that the error was harmless. I return to this point below.
Âś5n
Âś6I disagree with the conclusions in part II of the majority opinion relative to Rollo error. (See People v. Rollo (1977) 20 Cal.3d 109, 115-120 [141 Cal.Rptr. 177, 569 P.2d 771]; see also People v. Beagle (1972) 6 Cal.3d 441, 451-454 [99 Cal.Rptr. 313, 492 P.2d 1].) Specifically, I find Rolloerror in the trial courtâs ruling which was made against an objection based on Evidence Code section 352, and which permitted appellant to be impeached with the nine-year-old robbery conviction as well as with the three-year-old conviction of burglary. The evidence of the burglary conviction impeached his credibility for all the purposes legitimately contemplated by Evidence Code section 788. The permitted use of the robbery conviction was unnecessarily cumulative for those purposes. The probative value of that conviction was diminished by its remoteness in time, as the majority opinion properly concedes, and its use inevitably prejudiced appellant because of the similarity which exists between robbery and the crime charged (murder) by reason of the assaultive character common to both. (See People v. Anjell (1979) 100 Cal.App.3d 189, 197 [160 Cal.Rptr. 669].)
Âś7In Rollo, the Supreme Court admonished all lower courts as follows: âBy now it should be clear to all that when a defendant makes a timely objection to the introduction of evidence of a prior felony conviction for the purpose of impeaching his testimony, the trial court is under a duty (1) to determine the probative value of that evidence on the issue of the defendantâs credibility as a witness, (2) to appraise the degree of prejudice which the defendant would suffer from the admission of the evidence, and (3) to weigh the foregoing two factors against each other and exclude the evidence âif its probative value [on the issue of credibility] is substantially outweighed by the probability that its admission will . . . create substantial danger of undue prejudice, . . .â (Evid. Code, § 352).â (People v. Rollo, supra,20 Cal.3d 109 at p. 116; see also People v. Rist (1976) 16 Cal.3d 211, 218-223 [127 Cal.Rptr. 457, 545 P.2d 833]; People v. Antick (1975) 15 Cal.3d 79, 96-99 [123 Cal.Rptr. 475, 539 P.2d 43]; People v. Jardine (1981) 116 Cal.App.3d 907, 915-916 [172 Cal.Rptr. 408].)
Âś8*505The probative value of a prior conviction which has been diminished for remoteness is clearly outweighed by the probability of prejudice where the evidence of the conviction is unnecessarily cumulative. â â[T]he prosecution has no right to present cumulative evidence which creates a substantial danger of undue prejudice to the defendant.â [Citation.]â (People v. Cardenas (1982) 31 Cal.3d 897, 905 [184 Cal.Rptr. 165, 647 P.2d 569] [italics added].) This is essentially what the Jardinecourt recognized when it found Rolloerror in a ruling which permitted the use of multiple priors for impeachment. (See People v. Jardine, supra,116 Cal.App.3d 907 at p. 916.) Contrary to the statement in the majority opinion here, the Jardinecourt did not indulge in the âimplicit assumption that one prior felony is the limit when the issue is credibilityâ: it held in effect that the use of one prior is enough when the use of another operates to prejudice the defendant unnecessarily, which occurred in the present case.
Âś9I therefore conclude that the trial courtâs ruling which permitted the remote and similar robbery conviction to be used for impeachment was an abuse of discretion according to Rollo, Jardine, and the other authorities I have cited above. In this regard, there was no waiver in defense counselâs silence when the prosecutor used the 1977 conviction for impeachment without mentioning that it was for burglary. The episode had nothing to do with the trial courtâs abuse of discretion in permitting impeachment with the 1971 conviction of robbery.
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Âś11I also disagree with the majorityâs disposition of appellantâs contention, based on Brasfield v. United States (1926) 272 U.S. 448 [71 L.Ed. 345, 47 S.Ct. 135], that the verdict of guilt was effectively coerced when the trial court requested and received a report of numerical division of the jurors when the foreman reported that they were apparently deadlocked. The court did not ask how many jurors were for conviction or acquittal. The request having been thus limited, the majority holds that it was proper on the authority of a statement in People v. Carter (1968) 68 Cal.2d 810 [69 Cal.Rptr. 297, 442 P.2d 353]. (See id., at p. 815.) The statement is contrary to the federal rule pronounced in Brasfield(see my fn. 1, post), and the majority is correct in observing that âthe Brasfieldrule ... has not been followed in the California courts.â
Âś12After the Cartercourt made the statement approving a limited request for a deadlocked juryâs ânumerical division,â it reversed a criminal conviction on the ground that the jury had been coerced in fact. (See People v. Carter, supra,68 Cal.2d 810 at pp. 815-821.) The statement itself is thus dictum which is not binding on this court. (6 Witkin, Cal. Procedure (2d ed. 1971) Appeal, § 676, p. 4589.) We might feel constrained to follow it if it were persuasive, but I *506question its validity because the decisions cited for it were People v. Lammers (1951) 108 Cal.App.2d 279, 280 [236 P.2d 667], and People v. Curtis (1939) 36 Cal.App.2d 306, 325 [98 P.2d 228], (See People v. Carter, supra, at p. 815.)
Âś13In Curtis, the court approved the trial courtâs limited request for the numerical division of the jury on the authority of People v. Talkington (1935) 8 Cal.App.2d 75 [47 P.2d 368] and People v. Von Badenthal (1935) 8 Cal.App.2d 404 [48 P.2d 82]. (See People v. Curtis, supra,36 Cal.App.2d 306 at pp. 324-326.) The court in Von Badenthalhad reached that result on the sole authority of Talkington. (See People v. Von Badenthal, supra, at p. 410.) In Lammers, the court reached the same result on the authority of Talkingtonand Curtis. (See People v. Lammers, supra,108 Cal.App.2d 279 at pp. 281-282.) The Carterdictum thus originates in Talkington, which was the first California decision analyzing Brasfield v. United States. (See People v. Talkington, supra, at p. 84.) The Talkingtoncourt egregiously misinterpreted the Brasfieldrule in the process. (See ibid.)
Âś14I believe that Brasfieldshould be followed in California, particularly in light of recent decisions by our Supreme Court prohibiting trial court conduct conducive to the coercion of minority members of deadlocked juries. (See People v. Gainer (1977) 19 Cal.3d 835, 847-851 [139 Cal.Rptr. 861, 566 P.2d 992]; see also People v. Cook (1983) 33 Cal.3d 400, 411 [189 Cal.Rptr. 159, 658 P.2d 86] [quoting Gainer and citing the necessity of preserving âvalues identified in that decisionâ].) Lacking persuasive precedent requiring that the *507Brasfieldrule be ignored in this state, I would apply it in the present case and find reversible error as claimed.
Âś15IV
Âś16Whether the juryâs verdict was coerced or not, the sequence in which it was finally reached is highly relevant to the question of harmless error. The jurors had deliberated for three full days before their apparent deadlock was reported to the trial court. During the long deliberations, they requested and received a rereading of the testimony given by two witnesses who had been near the scene of the fatal stabbing but who had not seen it. The jurors also requested and received a rereading of the testimony given by appellant, who was the only living eyewitness to the stabbing (and who claimed self-defense). After three days, the jurors stood at âtwelve to nothingâ on the âcharge of murder,â which meant in legal effect that they were on the brink of acquitting appellant of murder in any degree. They also stood at â[o]ne to elevenâ on voluntary manslaughter and at â[z]eroâ on involuntary manslaughter. I cannot guess what prompted them to find appellant guilty of murder in the second degree after that, but the pattern of indecision dramatically demonstrates the âcloseness of this case.â (I again use the majorityâs description.)
Âś17In this state of the record, I perceive a reasonable probability that a result more favorable to appellantâspecifically, a verdict finding him guilty of voluntary manslaughter at worstâwould have occurred in the absence of the several errors I have defined above. I am also of the opinion that the errors have produced a miscarriage of justice. I would reverse the judgment of conviction on these grounds.
Âś18A petition for a rehearing was denied March 22, 1983. Rattigan, J., was of the opinion that the petition should be granted. Appellantâs petition for a hearing by the Supreme Court was denied June 2, 1983.
Âś19The question before the United States Supreme Court in Brasfieldwas whether the trial court in a criminal case had committed reversible error by asking the jury âhow it was divided numerically, . . . although a response indicating the vote in favor of or against conviction was neither sought nor obtained.â (See Brasfield v. Unites States, supra,272 U.S. 448 at p. 449 [71 L.Ed. 345 at p. 346].) The court found reversible error, stating: âWe deem it essential to the fair and impartial conduct of the trial, that the inquiry itself should be regarded as ground for reversal. Such procedure serves no useful purpose that cannot be attained by questions not requiring the jury to reveal the nature or extent of its division. Its effect upon a divided jury will often depend upon circumstances which cannot properly be known to the trial judge or to the appellate courts and may vary widely in different situations, but in general its tendency is coercive. It can rarely be resorted to without bringing to bear in some degree, serious although not measurable, an improper influence upon the jury, from whose deliberations every consideration other than that of the evidence and the law as expounded in a proper charge, should be excluded. Such a practice, which is never useful and is generally harmful, is not to be sanctioned. â (272 U.S. at p. 450 [71 L.Ed. at p. 346].)
Âś20The Talkingtoncourt cited this holding for the following statement: âWhile a number of cases might be cited to the effect that reversible error was not committed when the trial court simply asked as to the numerical division of a jury, the great weight of authority is to the effect, however, that reversible error is committed if the trial court, in addition to asking the numerical division of the jury, also asks as to how they have voted with reference to the guilt or innocence of the defendant.â (People v. Talkington, supra,8 Cal.App.2d 75 at p. 84 [italics added].) I have shown above that the âalsoâ question was not asked of the jurors in Brasfield.
Âś21I should acknowledge at this point that my conclusions with regard to Disbrowand Rolloerror raise questions concerning the effect of âProposition 8â (i.e., Cal. Const., art. I, § 28, subds. (d) and (f)), which was adopted by the voters after the present case was tried and the appeal was taken. According to my reading of the majority opinion, it does not reach these questions because of its holdings that the Disbrowerror was harmless and that there was no Rolloerror at all. (See maj. opn., fns. 1 and 3.) As I have just stated in the text, I have found a miscarriage of justice. The basis of my finding includes the Disbrowand Rolloerrors, as I see them, but it is not limited to them. There is nothing in Proposition 8 which requires a miscarriage of justice to stand, and I know of no authority to the effect that it operates retroactively for purposes of an appeal which was taken before its adoption. For these reasons, I also find it unnecessary to consider Proposition 8 or its effect.
Âś22Opinion
œ23Jesse Duran appeals from a judgment of imprisonment after a jury found him guilty of murder in the second degree (Pen. Code, § 187.)
Âś24Lydia Sheridan gave a large party at her house in San Jose. Appellant and his wife attended the party, and appellant played pool from about 6 to 9 p.m. During this period he had about five cups of beer.
Âś25During the evening appellant saw Michael Smith, the victim, fondling Mrs. Duran. Appellant grabbed Smith and told him to keep away from his wife. Later that night, appellant went outside and found that his wife had been thrown into a tub fully clothed. Smith was one of the persons responsible for throwing her in. Appellant went over and saw that Smith had grabbed Mrs. Duranâs breasts from behind. He kicked Smithâs hand away.
Âś26After this incident, appellant led his wife into the kitchen and told her to wait while he looked for some towels. When appellant returned with a towel, his wife was gone. After looking for about 20 to 25 minutes, appellant found his wife with Smith in front of a van in the Sheridan driveway. Smith had Mrs. Duran up against the van and had his hand underneath her blouse, attempting to remove her clothes. Appellant tried to grab Smith, but he ran away. After some recriminations appellant placed his wife in their car.
Âś27A few minutes later Smith, apparently drunk, walked up to appellant. Appellant asked Smith what he had been doing with Mrs. Duran. Smith did not respond directly to the question, suggesting instead that they talk about the matter. As the conversation continued, a shiny object was seen in appellantâs right hand. Smith asked appellant, âWhy do you have that knife?â Appellant told Smith not to worry about the knife as he could have stabbed Smith earlier at the party if that had been his intention; appellant continued to request an explanation for what had happened.
Âś28Appellant continued to ask what had happened with his wife and stated, âTell me what happened or we are going to fight.â Appellant added, âIf we fight, one of us is going to die.â After more angry words, appellant hit Smith in the face, knocking him against a parked car. Appellant then hit Smith two more times. Smith lunged at appellant, not making contact, and ran back toward the party.
Âś29*490Appellant ran after Smith; as the two ran toward the side of the Sheridan house, witnesses momentarily lost sight of them. Appellant and Smith went behind a van in the driveway; about 15 to 35 seconds later, appellant ran back to the street alone. As he ran past the witness, appellant said, âHe was out of line, wasnât he?â The two witnesses saw the glare of an object appellant was holding in his hand. Appellant put the object in his pocket, went to his car, and drove away.
Âś30The witnesses ran to the back yard and found Smith lying on the ground bleeding from his chest.
Âś31Smith died of a deep stab wound to the heart.
Âś32I
Âś33Appellant was soon arrested and taken to the detective bureau of the San Jose Police Department. After the detectives asked appellant preliminary questions, Sergeant Demkowski read appellant a Miranda warning and the following conversation occurred:
âDemkowski: Having these rights in mind, do you want to talk to us about the activities last night?
âA: First of all, let me ask you a question. Am I charged with this homicide?
âQ: Youâre under arrest for homicide, yes.
âA: Well then I think itâs better that I have an attorney here. But other than that, Iâll give you my version of it, you know. Donât ask me no questions. All right? Is that okay?
âQ: You donât want us to ask you any questions?
âA: No.
âQ: Okay.
âA: Iâll just tell you what, you know, what I did and, you know but I mean, or have you got an attorney right here present, close?
âQ: It will take quite a while to get one. But go ahead.
âA: You got a recording or anything, you want to record it?
âQ: Itâs being recorded.
*491âA: Huh?
âQ: Itâs being recorded.
âA: Oh, okay. Ah . . . okay, this is yesterday, right?
âQ: Yeah.
âA: We decided to go to visit my sister-in-law, my wifeâs sister . . . .â
Âś34Appellant argues that it was error for the trial court to deny a motion in limine (Evid. Code, § 402) to suppress the statements elicited in this interrogation. The Attorney General responds that the trial judge made findings that âOne, the defendant was given his Miranda rights, and said that he understood them. Two, that the defendant never asked for an attorney. And three, that he wanted to and intended to tell his version of the event.â He argues that these findings are dispositive of the Miranda issue. The trial courtâs findings are to be accepted by this court if not âpalpably erroneous.â (People v. Duren (1973) 9 Cal.3d 218, 238 [107 Cal.Rptr. 157, 507 P.2d 1365].) Here, as we shall explain, the trial courtâs determination that there was no Miranda violation was indeed palpably erroneous.
Âś35Appellant argues that he twice invoked his right to an attorney, thus triggering the âper seâ rule that all interrogation must cease. (Michigan v. Mosley (1975) 423 U.S. 96, 109-110 [46 L.Ed.2d 313, 324-325, 96 S.Ct. 321] [White, J., conc.]; Fare v. Michael C. (1979) 442 U.S. 707, 719 [61 L.Ed.2d 197, 208, 99 S.Ct. 2560].) He further argues that because following these invocations he never initiated without reservation a renewal of interrogation, statements obtained during the interrogation should have been excluded.
Âś36The first question is whether appellant invoked his right to an attorney. In People v. Randall (1970) 1 Cal.3d 948, 955 [83 Cal.Rptr. 658, 464 P.2d 114], the court stated: â[A] suspect may indicate that he wishes to invoke the privilege by means other than an express statement to that effect; no particular form of words or conduct is necessary. ... [1] To strictly limit the manner in which a suspect may assert the privilege, or to demand that it be invoked with unmistakable clarity (resolving any ambiguity against the defendant) would subvert Mirandaâs prophylactic intent.â The court held that, absent any evidence to the contrary, âa telephone call to an attorney must be construed to indicate that the suspect desires to invoke his Fifth Amendment privilege.â (Id., at p. 958.) Similarly, in People v. Superior Court (Zolnay) (1975) 15 Cal.3d 729 [125 Cal.Rptr. 798, 542 P.2d 1390] [cert. den. (1976) 429 U.S. 816 (50 L.Ed.2d 76, 97 S.Ct. 58)], the words âDo you think we need an attorney?â or âI guess we need a lawyerâ were held to indicate an invocation df *492the right to remain silent. (Id., at p. 735, 736.) In all, a suspect may invoke his right to silence by any words or conduct reasonably inconsistent with a present willingness to discuss his case freely and completely. (People v. Burton (1971) 6 Cal.3d 375, 382 [99 Cal.Rptr. 1, 491 P.2d 793]; see also People v. Parker (1975) 45 Cal.App.3d 24 [119 Cal.Rptr. 49].)
Âś37Under this standard appellant did invoke his Miranda rights. Assuming that appellantâs first statement that âitâs better that I have an attorney hereâ did not constitute an invocation, appellantâs question âHave you got an attorney right here present, close?â must be so construed. Further, appellant made two statements indicating a present unwillingness to freely talk without first meeting with an attorney. Ambiguous statements are to be construed as invocations. âA principal objective of [the Miranda] decision was to establish safeguards that would liberate courts insofar as possible from the difficult and troublesome necessity of adjudicating in each case whether coercive influences . . . had been employed to secure admissions or confessions.â (People v. Ireland (1969) 70 Cal.2d 522, 535 [75 Cal.Rptr. 188, 450 P.2d 580, 40 A.L.R.3d 1323].) If courts were to construe ambiguous references to attorneys as something other than invocations of a suspectâs right to remain silent, experienced criminals would get attorneys and not incriminate themselves, while less experienced offenders would be âtrappedâ by failing to use the precise words of invocation. (See People v. Randall, supra,1 Cal.3d 948, 955.) Because appellant invoked his right to have an attorney present, all questioning should have ceased. (Miranda v. Arizona (1966) 384 U.S. 436, 474 [16 L.Ed.2d 694, 723, 86 S.Ct. 1602, 10 A.L.R.3d 1074].) There was no later waiver of Miranda rights by appellant. (See Edwards v. Arizona (1981) 451 U.S. 477 [68 L.Ed.2d 378, 101 S.Ct. 1880] [reh. den. 452 U.S. 973 (69 L.Ed.2d 984, 101 S.Ct. 3128)].)
Âś38Appellant told the detective that he was not involved in any fight and that the only scuffle he had was with his wife. At trial he testified (on direct examination) that he and Smith had a fight during which he hit Smith three times; appellant even admitting killing Smith. Appellantâs statements to the police, though exculpatory, were inconsistent with his trial testimony and thus constituted admissions; they were used to impeach him. In Harris v. New York (1971) 401 U.S. 222 [28 L.Ed.2d 1, 91 S.Ct. 643], the United States Supreme Court held that under the United States Constitution, statements taken in violation of Miranda requirements, though unusable by the prosecution in its own case, are admissible to impeach statements made by the defendant in the course of his direct testimony. (See also Oregon v. Hass (1975) 420 U.S. 714 [43 L.Ed.2d 570, 95 S.Ct. 1215].) However, in People v. Disbrow (1975) 16 Cal.3d 101 [127 Cal.Rptr. 360, 545 P.2d 272], the California Supreme Court rejected the contention that the rule in Harris v. New York, supra,determines the admissibility, in California courts, of statements obtained in violation of Miranda, and held that as a matter of state constitutional law (the privilege *493against self-incrimination of Cal. Const., art. I, § 15), such statements may not be admitted. (Id., at p. 113.) In the present case appellantâs statements to the police were used to impeach his in-court testimony; their admission was thus improper as a matter of California, rather than federal, constitutional interpretation.
Âś39The consequence of the error must be determined. The court committed state law error under Disbrowin admitting for impeachment purposes the unlawfully obtained statements of appellant. Under the California Constitution such error is reversible only where the reviewing court believes that it resulted in a miscarriage of justice. (Cal. Const., art. VI, § 13.) In People v. Watson (1956) 46 Cal.2d 818 [299 P.2d 243] [cert. den. (1957) 355 U.S. 846 (2 L.Ed.2d 55, 78 S.Ct. 70)], the court held that âa âmiscarriage of justiceâ should be declared only when the court, âafter an examination of the entire cause, including evidence,â is of the âopinionâ that it is reasonably probable that a result more favorable to the appealing party would have been reached in the absence of the error.â (Id., at p. 836; see, e.g., People v. Starkey (1965) 234 Cal.App.2d 822, 831 [44 Cal.Rptr. 738]; People v. Saldana (1965) 233 Cal.App.2d 24, 32-33 [43 Cal.Rptr. 312], cert. den. (1966) 384 U.S. 1026 [16 L.Ed.2d 1032, 86 S.Ct. 1938]; People v. De Leon (1965) 236 Cal.App.2d 530, 537 [46 Cal.Rptr. 241] [âadmissions do not require a reversal unless, in the light of the entire record, the error has resulted in a miscarriage of justice.â]. Here, the court gave no instructions requiring the jury to consider appellantâs statement only for the purposes of assessing credibility. Its instructions left the jury free to consider appellantâs prior inconsistent statement as evidencing consciousness of guilt. As the courtâs failure to deliver limiting instructions in effect permitted affirmative use by the prosecution of the statement, appellant submits that this omission transformed the state law error into one of federal constitutional magnitude. Accordingly, he urges that the more stringent standard of âharmless beyond a reasonable doubtâ is applicable in determining whether prejudice occurred. (Chapman v. California (1967) 386 U.S. 18, 24 [17 L.Ed.2d 705, 711, 87 S.Ct. 824, 24 A.L.R.3d 1065].)
Âś40Although the court was bound to instruct the jury sua sponte on the general principles of law applicable to a case, this obligation does not extend to instructions limiting the purposes for which particular evidence may be considered. A defendantâs failure to request such limiting instructions waives the issue. (People v. Soltero (1978) 81 Cal.App.3d 423, 430 [146 Cal.Rptr. 457], cert. den. 439 U.S. 933 [58 L.Ed.2d 328, 99 S.Ct. 325]; People v. Harris (1977) 71 Cal.App.3d 959, 966 [139 Cal.Rptr. 778]; People v. Demond (1976) 59 Cal.App.3d 574, 589-590 [130 Cal.Rptr. 590].) The California Supreme Court decided People v. Nudd (1974) 12 Cal.3d 204 [115 Cal.Rptr. 372, 524 *494P.2d 844], cert. den. (1975) 420 U.S. 1004 [43 L.Ed.2d 763, 95 S.Ct. 1447], a year before its decision in Disbrow, repudiating the Harris, supra, 401 U.S. 222 analysis for state law purposes. Following Harris, Nudd found no federal error in the admission for impeachment purposes of a defendantâs prior inconsistent (and inculpatory) statement. Nudd rejected the defendantâs contention that the exception of Harris was inapplicable due to the trial courtâs failure to deliver limiting instructions on its own motion. Instead, the court adhered to the basic rule noted above: âabsent request by a party, there is no duty to give an instruction limiting the purpose for which evidence may be considered. [Citations.]ââ People v. Nudd, supra, 12 Cal.3d 204, 209.)
Âś41Hinman v. McCarthy (9th Cir. 1982) 676 F.2d 343, certiorari denied 459 U.S. 1048 [74 L.Ed.2d 617, 103 S.Ct. 468], cited by appellant, is distinguishable. There, the prosecution presented statements obtained in violation of Miranda during its case-in-chief. The defendant subsequently testified in his own defense. On appeal from an order granting habeas corpus, the state argued that the Miranda violation was necessarily harmless as âthe statement, which was offered during the Stateâs case-in-chief, would have been admissible as part of the Stateâs rebuttal evidence.â (Hinman v. McCarthy, supra,676 F.2d 343, 349.) No limiting instructions were given; the opinion does not indicate whether any were requested. The court rejected this attempt to. protect under the Harris, supra, 401 U.S. 222 rule affirmative prosecutorial use of the products of Miranda violations; Harris was held applicable only to statements admitted for impeachment. Here, as in Nudd, the prosecution did not introduce appellantâs statement during its own case. The prosecutor did not begin to lay the foundation for its introduction until his cross-examination of appellant. At the conclusion of the defense case the prosecution presented in rebuttal the tape of appellantâs statement. Indeed, this is a stricter example of impeachment than Nudd. There, the defendantâs prior inconsistent statement was inculpatory; here, it was basically exculpatory but inconsistent with his trial testimony. Unlike Hinman, we are not asked here to re-characterize as premature rebuttal the prosecutionâs direct evidence. It was clear to the court and to defense counsel that the prosecutor was offering the statement as impeachment. It was incumbent upon appellant to request appropriate limiting instructions. Thus, there is no federal Miranda error cognizable on this appeal. We now examine, under the standard of Watson, the consequences of the state law error in permitting this form of impeachment.
Âś42The jury was instructed
(1) Returned to the party after placing his wife in the car and driving away.
(2) Had a shiny object in his hand prompting the victim to ask, âWhy do you have that?â or âWhy do you have that knife?â
(3) Responded, âI could have stabbed you earlier.â
(4) Stated to the victim, âIf we fight, one of us is going to die.â
(5) Hit the victim three times, and
(6) Ran after the victim when the victim tried to get away.
(7) Made statements after the incident (e.g., âHe got out of line, didnât he.â) uncharacteristic of someone who has just killed in self-defense.
(8) Testified that he did not know the victim had been stabbedâan attempted evasion far more damaging than the improperly admitted statement.
(9) Testified that he had not been armedâa statement completely inconsistent with his other testimony and with the testimony of witnesses who saw in appellantâs hand a shiny object (inferably a knife which he took away, as no weapon consistent with the mortal wound was found at the scene of the stabbing).
Âś43*496The adverse effect of this evidence could scarcely have been affected by the improper use of the un-Mirandized exculpatory statements to impeach appellant. We conclude that it is not reasonably probable that a result more favorable to appellant would have been obtained had the statement to the police not been admitted. Therefore, the error does not justify reversal of the judgment. (People v. Watson, supra, 46 Cal.2d 818.)
Âś44n
Âś45Appellant had six prior felony convictions. Pursuant to People v. Beagle (1972) 6 Cal.3d 441 [99 Cal.Rptr. 313, 492 P.2d 1], he moved to restrict the prosecutor to using one prior felony conviction for the purpose of impeachment. Defense counsel argued that impeachment should be restricted to a 1977 burglary conviction, and that as murder and robbery are both assaultive crimes the 1971 robbery should not be used. Alternatively, appellant asked that if the 1971 robbery were used to impeach him, the crime be identified as âa felony involving theft.â These motions were denied.
Âś46On cross-examination the prosecutor impeached appellant as follows:
âQ: Mr. Duran, itâs true, is it not, that you were convicted on July 13th, 1977, in Santa Clara County of a felony, is that right?
âA: Thatâs correct.
âQ: And before that, on September 30th, 1971, right here in Santa Clara County, you were convicted of another.
âA: Correct.
âQ: Just a minuteâanother felony, first degree robbery, is that right?
âA: Yes.â
Âś47Appellant claims that (a) the prosecutorâs description of the 1977 conviction as âa felony,â without revealing the identity of the offense, whs error under People v. Rollo (1977) 20 Cal.3d 109 [141 Cal.Rptr. 177, 569 P.2d 771], and (b) under People v. Beagle, supra,6 Cal.3d 441, and Evidence Code section 352, and that the trial court abused its discretion in determining that the probative value of the 1971 robbery conviction outweighed the risk of undue prejudice.
Âś48Respondent concedes that Rollowas contravened, but citing People v. Remiro (1979) 89 Cal.App.3d 809 [153 Cal.Rptr. 89, 2 A.L.R.3d 1135] [cert. *497den. 444 U.S. 876 (62 L.Ed.2d 104, 100 S.Ct. 160)], argues that appellant waived the point by his failure to object or bring out the nature of the prior on redirect examination. In Remiro, the prosecutor in his opening statement âpresagedâ proof that the engine in a Chevrolet van involved in the case was obtained in an earlier uncharged robbery committed by the defendant. A defense objection was overruled, and a later motion for mistrial denied. Defendants argued on appeal that they were prejudiced by this opening statement. The court, however, noted that there was no showing of bad faith on the part of the prosecution, and that the remarks were insignificant in comparison with the evidence of defendantsâ guilt. Accordingly the court held that the failure to request a curative admonition constituted a waiver of any claim of error on appeal. (Id., at p. 841; see generally, Witkin, Cal. Criminal Procedure (1963) Reversible Error, § 747, pp. 721-722.)
Âś49Familiar guidelines to determine if there has been a waiver were applied by the Court of Appeal in People v. Gaulden (1974) 36 Cal.App.3d 942 [111 Cal.Rptr. 803]: â[T]here was no objection to any of the remarks assigned as error and this was not a closely balanced case where there is grave doubt of defendantâs guilt. Moreover, none of the remarks were of such a character that they could not be obviated by any retraction of counsel or instruction of the court.â (Id., at p. 959.) In the present case, there was no objection or request for a curative admonition. Further, the remark was of such a character that any harmful speculation as to the nature of the offense could be readily cured by requiring the prosecutor to name the offense, or bring it out on further redirect.
Âś50Appellant counters that any failure of his attorney to object to his improper impeachment constituted ineffective assistance of counsel since it cannot be justified as a reasonable tactical choice. In this respect he is mistaken. The trial judge previously determined that both the 1971 robbery conviction and the 1977 burglary conviction could be used to impeach appellant. Trial counsel may reasonably have felt that random speculation was less harmful than a knowledge that the crime appellant committed was burglary. Thus, the choice not to object, even if in retrospect it was not the best choice, can at least be justified as a reasonable tactic. People v. Pope (1979) 23 Cal.3d 412 [152 Cal.Rptr. 732, 590 P.2d 859, 2 A.L.R.4th 1], and People v. Zimmerman (1980) 102 Cal.App.3d 647 [161 Cal.Rptr. 669] are thus to be distinguished. Appellant has waived his objection to any Rolloerror.
Âś51Appellant next argues that the trial court abused its discretion when it allowed impeachment with both the 1977 burglary conviction and the 1971 robbery conviction. In People v. Beagle, supra,6 Cal.3d 441, the Supreme Court held that a trial court may admit or exclude evidence of prior felony convictions offered to impeach a witness upon balancing four factors: (1) whether the prior felony conviction reflects adversely on the defendantâs honesty or veracity; (2) *498whether the conviction is near or remote in time; (3) whether the conviction is for substantially similar conduct for which the accused is on trial; (4) the effect if the defendant does not testify out of fear of being prejudiced because of impeachment by prior convictions. (People v. Beagle, supra,6 Cal.3d 441, 453.) The court must weigh the first two factors âagainst the probability that admission of such evidence âwill (a) necessitate undue consumption of time, or (b) create substantial danger of undue prejudice, of confusing the issues, or of misleading the jury.â (§ 352.)â (People v. Fries (1979) 24 Cal.3d 222, 227 [155 Cal.Rptr. 194, 594 P.2d 19].) âThe third and fourth factors provide guidance in assessing the weight of these contervailing considerations.â (People v. Lassell (1980) 108 Cal.App.3d 720, 724 [116 Cal.Rptr. 678].)
Âś52In People v. Rollo, supra,20 Cal.3d 109, 118, the court noted that âdifferent felonies have different degrees of probative value on the issue of credibility . Some, such as perjury, are intimately connected with that issue; others, such as robbery and burglary, are somewhat less relevant. . . . â (See also People v. Barrick (1982) 33 Cal.3d 115 [187 Cal.Rptr. 716, 654 P.2d 1243].) Here, the prior convictions were for robbery and burglary, both of which are at least somewhat probative on the issue of credibility.
Âś53Appellantâs prior convictions occurred in 1971 (the robbery) and 1977 (the burglary). The current offense occurred in June 1979 and trial began in January 1980. The greater the remoteness of a prior conviction, the less probative value it possesses. Thus, the probative value of the 1977 burglary conviction is greater than that of the 1971 robbery conviction.
Âś54The third factor concerns the danger of undue prejudice when the prior offense is similar to the charged offense. Appellant contends that as the charged murder and prior robbery are both assaultive offenses, there was a substantial danger that the jury would use the prior robbery conviction to conclude that appellant was a violent and assaultive person. He argues that this weighs in favor of exclusion. Appellant correctly notes that the two crimes are similar in that both are assaultive. Such similarity, however, does not mandate exclusion; rather it remains within the trial courtâs discretion to balance the pertinent factors and arrive at a conclusion. âTrial courts are still to exercise discretion in situations in which the prior and charged offenses are less than identical. Several decisions avoid formulaic exclusion and follow the call in Rist and Friesfor balancing.â (People v. Lassell, supra,108 Cal.App.3d 720, 727.) While the similarity of the charged offense and the prior felony points in the direction of exclusion, that similarity is not dispositive.
Âś55The final factor concerns the effect if the defendant forgoes testifying out of fear of being prejudiced by impeachment with the prior convictions. In the present case, that factor is absent as appellant testified.
Âś56*499Appellant argues that even if the robbery conviction could properly be used to impeach his testimony if that were the only prior felony conviction, it was an abuse of discretion for the trial court to admit it where there was an additional conviction more probative of credibility and less prejudicial.
Âś57Appellant correctly notes that the 1977 burglary conviction is more probative and less prejudicial than the 1971 robbery conviction. It is more probative because it occurred nearer in time, and less prejudicial because it does not carry the connotation of violence which is common both to murder and robbery. Appellant cites People v. Zimmerman, supra,102 Cal.App.3d 647, for the proposition that â â[b]y analogy to the procedure directed by the Supreme Court in People v. Beagle, supra,the trial court should have controlled the situation so as to give the prosecutor adequate scope to establish beyond question that there had been a prior conviction and, at the same time, to prevent unnecessary prejudice to the defense by proving more than one of the priors.ââ (Id., at p. 657, fn. 5, quoting People v. Morrison (1977) 67 Cal.App.3d 425, 428 [136 Cal.Rptr. 650], disapproved on other grounds in People v. Hall (1980) 28 Cal.3d 143 [167 Cal.Rptr. 844, 616 P.2d 826].) In Zimmerman, the court held that the defendant had been denied effective assistance of counsel where âonce the prosecution had succeeded in persuading the trial court to admit a second felony (the petty theft with a prior) for purposes of impeachment, counsel failed to compel the prosecutor to use this prior both to impeach and to establish appellantâs ex-felon status as an element of the section 12021 charge.â (102 Cal.App.3d at p. 657.) Morrisonand Zimmermanare to be distinguished; each of those cases involved a charge of possession of a concealable firearm by a felon (Pen. Code, § 12021) where a prior felony conviction is an element of the crime. Proof of any single prior felony is adequate, and proof of more than one is unnecessary and prejudicial. But where the issue is credibility the presence of multiple prior felonies may be more probative than prejudicial; conviction of a single felony does not represent an adjudication of a permanent status of lack of credibility as a witness whereas conviction of several may tend to establish a character trait affecting credibility. An exercise of discretion by the trial court was called for.
Âś58People v. Jardine (1981) 116 Cal.App.3d 907 [172 Cal.Rptr. 408], also cited by appellant, cannot be so distinguished. There the Court of Appeal remarked that â[a]llowing one prior offense to be used would have been adequate to impeach [the codefendantâs] character if such impeachment was to be allowed at all under the Rollostandard. By ruling that all three priors would be available for impeachment, the trial court apparently did not take into account the degree of prejudice that [the codefendant] would suffer from admission of the evidence.â (Id., at p. 916.) The court cited no authority for the implicit assumption that one prior felony is the limit when the issue is credibility, and it *500appears that the real basis of the decision may have been the expressed conclusion that the trial court âseem[s] to have ignored the balancing process.â (Id.)
Âś59We find no basis for holding that it was an abuse of discretion to allow proof of more than one felony for the purpose of impeachment. A series of crimes relevant to character for truthfulness is more probative of credibility than a single lapse, and the trial court must weigh against that value the danger of prejudice. So the trial court evidently did in the present case; no abuse of discretion appears.
Âś60m
Âś61After the jury had deliberated almost three days, the foreman informed the judge, âMembers of the jury have come to the conclusion that a unanimous decision cannot be reached.â The court inquired whether the foreman thought further deliberation would produce a verdict. The foreman replied, âNo, I donât, your Honor.â The court then asked him whether the rereading of testimony or of the instructions would be helpful. The foreman responded that it would be up to the individual jurors themselves.
Âś62The court again inquired whether further instructions or readback of testimony would help, and the foreman responded in the negative, and replied âYesâ when asked whether he was satisfied that the jury had reached a deadlock.
Âś63The following dialogue then ensued:
âThe Court: All right. Now, let me ask you another question, and in answer to this question I want you to give me a number and nothing further. In other words, just a numerical response. How many ballots has the jury taken? just give me a number in response to that.
âThe Foreman: I would say probably ten.
âThe Court: Approximately ten? All right. As to the charge of murder, again, I would ask you to give me a numerical response only. What was the numerical breakdown on the ballot taken on the charge of murder? Again, I want numbers, either six and six or seven and five or whatever.
âThe Foreman: Is this on the killing itself?
âThe Court: The charge of murder.
*501âThe Foreman: That would be twelve to nothing, I believe, on that charge.
âThe Court: All right. On the voluntary manslaughter, would you give me the numerical breakdown on the last ballot?
âThe Foreman: One to eleven.
âThe Court: All right. And involuntary manslaughter, would you give me the numerical breakdown on the last ballot?
âThe Foreman: Zero.â
Âś64The court then asked each juror individually whether he or she agreed with the foreman that the jury was hopelessly deadlocked. Ten jurors, including the foreman, responded that they did not believe further deliberations would bring about a verdict. Juror number 12, however, stated that there was a possibility of a verdict although he could not predict that a verdict could be reached. The court returned the jury for further deliberations. Later the same day, the jury returned a verdict finding appellant guilty of second degree murder.
Âś65Appellant argues that the trial court improperly coerced a verdict by inquiring into the numerical division of the jury and the number of ballots it had taken and by asking each juror individually whether further deliberations would bring about a verdict. Appellant cites Brasfield v. United States (1926) 272 U.S. 448 [71 L.Ed.2d 345, 47 S.Ct. 135], for the proposition that inquiry into the numerical division of a jury constitutes per se reversible error. He further argues that this rule is a requirement of federal due process. But the Brasfield rule is a matter of federal criminal procedure; it has not been followed in the California courts.
Âś66Jury coercion is essentially a factual determination, dependent upon varying circumstances. In People v. Carter (1968) 68 Cal.2d 810 [69 Cal.Rptr. 297, 442 P.2d 353], overruled on other grounds People v. Gainer (1977) 19 Cal.3d 835 [139 Cal.Rptr. 861, 566 P.2d 997, 97 A.L.R.3d 73], the court remarked that â â. . . A judge may advise, and he may persuade, but he may not command, unduly influence or coerce. â â (Id., at p. 814.) The court went on to note that it is the courtâs statutory responsibility to assure that a verdict is rendered and â[t]he discharge of this responsibility necessarily requires that the court, in cases where the jury has been unable to reach agreement, make the indicated determination of âreasonable probabilityâ and . . . that it take appropriate action to encourage agreement. Thus, the court in such cases may inquire of the jury as to its numerical division without seeking to discover how many jurors are for . . . acquittal. [Citations.] The court also may, and indeed it should, question individual jurors as to the probability of agreement. â (Id., at p. 815; *502see People v. Finkelstin (1950) 98 Cal.App.2d 545, 561 [220 P.2d 934].) The present record does not establish jury coercion.
Âś67IV
Âś68Appellant argues that it was error for the trial court to impose a one-year weapon enhancement (Pen. Code, § 12022, subd. (b)) pursuant to the juryâs findings that appellant used a knife in the commission of the murder. He cites People v. Rogers (1981) 124 Cal.App.3d 1071, 1082 [177 Cal.Rptr. 747], in support of this contention. The Rogerscourt noted that â[t]he real problem is that appellant was sentenced to life imprisonment on the murder and our Supreme Court has held that an enhancement pursuant to Penal Code section 12022 cannot be added to a conviction where the sentence is life imprisonment [citation].â (Id.)
Âś69Respondent challenges the correctness of the Rogersdecision, citing as contrary to Rogers, In re Neal (1980) 114 Cal.App.3d 141 [170 Cal.Rptr. 452], and People v. McNeill (1980) 112 Cal.App.3d 330 [169 Cal.Rptr. 313], In re Neal, supra,involved a claim that defendantâs personal use of a firearm could not be used to add two years to the term fixed for parole eligibility on his indeterminate life sentence for conviction of first degree murder. The court rejected this contention, distinguishing earlier cases and discussing the difference between the indeterminate sentencing law (ISL) and the determinate sentencing law (DSL). The court noted that People v. Walker (1976) 18 Cal.3d 232, 243-244 [133 Cal.Rptr. 520, 555 P.2d 306], relied on in Rogers, arose under the ISL in the context of a sentence enhancement. âUnder that law ... the Adult Authority fixed the actual length of the prison term [and] a sentence under the ISL was in legal effect a sentence for the maximum term. [Citation.] Thus, once the defendant was released on parole by the Adult Authority, he nonetheless remained in âlegal custody of the department [of corrections]â for the duration of the maximum term.â (In re Neal, supra,114 Cal.App.3d 141, 144.) The Walkerholding that an enhancement could not be added to a life sentence thus made sense in the context of the ISL as a defendant logically could not serve a sentence which commenced after a sentence which lasted until his death or pardon.
Âś70Referring to cases where a defendant was sentenced under the former ISL (pre-July 1, 1977), the Neal court noted that â[w]ith the advent of the 1976 [DSL] such line of reasoning is no longer applicable. Generally, all prison sentences, including those previously imposed under the ISL, must now be for a fixed term of imprisonment and a specific parole release date set. (§ 1170.2, subds. (a), (e) and (f); [citation].) Upon completion of such fixed term of imprisonment, the prisoner must be released on parole for a prescribed number of years [citation] and thereafter fully discharged [citation].â (In re Neal, supra,*503114 Cal.App.3d 141, 144.) The court thus found that â[s]uch additional term neither extended the statutory period of parole eligibility (§ 3046) nor carried beyond defendantâs ability to serve it during his lifetime [citation] and was properly considered ... in calculating defendantâs period of actual confinement prior to release on parole . . . .â (Id., at pp. 145-146.) The reasoning in Neal thus indicates that appellantâs contention has force only in the context of the former ISL under which enhancement of a term which necessarily lasted for life was impossible.
Âś71In another case, the court upheld an enhancement of an indeterminate sentence of from 15 years to lifeâthe identical sentence in the present case. The court noted that âPeople v. Walker (1976) 18 Cal.3d 232 . . . involved a natural life sentence from which the defendant could never be discharged prior to death. It is therefore inapposite in the instant circumstances . . . .â (People v. McNeill, supra,112 Cal.App.3d 330, 340.)
Âś72In the present case, appellant was sentenced under a statute providing that âEvery person guilty of murder in the second degree shall suffer confinement in the state prison for a term of 15 years to life.â (Pen. Code, § 190.) In re Jeanice D. (1980) 28 Cal.3d 210 [168 Cal.Rptr. 455, 617 P.2d 1087], interpreted similar statutory language as referring to an indeterminate sentence; it thus rejected the contention that the statute establishes a determinate life sentence with a minimum parole eligibility date of 15 years. Under this statute, then, the penalty for second degree murder will be fixed at a definite number of yearsâanywhere from 15 to life. Once this figure has been determined, a defendant would be released as soon as his term expires. It is not impossible to add an enhancement to the term decided upon so long as that term is not life. Accordingly, the language in People v. Rogers, supra,124 Cal.App.3d 1071, is not applicable here. In re Neal, supra,and People v. McNeill, supra,are to be followed.
Âś73The judgment is affirmed.
Âś74Caldecott, P. J., concurred.
Âś75We need not reach, on this record, the possible effect of California Constitution, article I, section 28, subdivision (d) (Prop. 8).
Âś76CALJIC No. 2.03.
Âś77Again, it is unnecessary for us to reach the possible effects of âProposition 8â (Cal. Const., art. I, § 28, subd. (f)).